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[Zensei]

The newest addition MASC, left alt key? only 1 mech? I feel so sorry for new players, I mean granted some will get it but anymore I think most will not. If I could wipe your mind of all experience you have in this game and drop you with a full deck how would you do?

I really wonder what would have happened today if MASC was just added to everyone's modules? My hands are already cramped from the keyboard carpel tunnel edition of the game, why not add one more.

This iteration of MechWarrior has become a giant robot prostitution, PGI is the pimp and I have been playing less and less, it's becoming a $spam machine. The game is not becoming boring Russ, it already is. You have your Elites and I'm sure they are all furry and happy and then you have the rest of us. We are not happy with it Russ, you can twitter, you can have focus groups, you can elect player counsels that are corrupt from the voting process. But so far Russ, what you can not do is make MechWarriors happy.

And we all want happy MechWarriors. PM me Russ, I will be happy to have a focus group with you, in fact I know hundreds of MechWarriors that would, but not in town halls. Those are lame and run by forum warriors. Unless you want forum warriors to pay your bills.

[Kiiyor]

Well... I don't think it's a big deal. I use my thumb for the space bar, and it hits ALT with no issue either.

You can always change it in keybinds.

For a new player it might be an issue, but any game I ever install starts with me looking at what the keybinds actually are. If they aren't sure, they can always ask in game also.

Unless you just wanted to complain about PGI, i'm not sure what else you want. I think you are REALLY underestimating the intelligence of new players.

[Impyrium]

I disagree. MechWarrior is supposed to be a BattleMech 'simulator'. MechWarrior Online is the simplest of the series, not counting the very first, and should be more complicated at least in terms of damage models, available controls (crouch/duck/lean anyone?) and game modes. Right now it feels like a FPS with a few MechWarrior mechanics flattened over the top. I have a lot against that and it's why I disliked MWO so much at the beginning, though I've learned to enjoy it for what it is over time.

Personally I blame the way the competitive community is right now due to the e-sports style focus and gameplay, certainly not from being too complex or too elite for the regular player.

The only real problem in terms of complexity is the lack of a proper tutorial. There needs to be a tutorial introducing the player to mech controls that's far better than that sad little tutorial we have now, and another one introducing the player to the basics of mech customization and the mech lab in general.

[TyphonCh]

One more button is all it takes to make this game too complicated? It's a speed burst. Not calculus. God forbid they add any more equipment or features. I may feel like a chimpanzee picking my ass with a stick.
Sorry... this game is far from complicated.
Go back to playing Hawken if you want simple streamline robot shooting action

[bad arcade kitty]

i see no problem, your left hand is on wasd keys and so you can easily stretch a finger to press r to lock (index finger), f (index finger) or c (index or thumb) to center, space (thumb) to jump and, yes, left alt to masc (thumb again), they all are around there

[Gattsus]

Steam release cod players incoming.
I'll let this thought sink for a while.

[Zensei]

Team Chevy86, on 16 June 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

One more button is all it takes to make this game too complicated? It's a speed burst. Not calculus. God forbid they add any more equipment or features. I may feel like a chimpanzee picking my ass with a stick.
Sorry... this game is far from complicated.
Go back to playing Hawken if you want simple streamline robot shooting action

It is not just the 1 more button, and its not just the 1 mech that has it, its the progression to get it. I think that to me the worst of it is that I am completely misunderstood, the first 4 comments shoot down my concerns, My concerns do not matter and that is a huge point that is forcing me away from the game, I do not have twenty thousand posts, but I have been here since the beginning, I dont need thousands of posts to be heard. And the forum is full of boring as the game is full of boring and if that is Russ's goal, PGI's goal, then you hit it. 544 posts later and I'm completely bored with this.

[Zensei]

Gattsus, on 16 June 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Steam release cod players incoming.
I'll let this thought sink for a while.

Steam is where games go to die, its where they suck out the last bit of revenue they can get before they close the doors, is there anyone here that would compare COD and MWO and then say that they are equal.

[DerelictTomcat]

OP finds MASC only on two mechs? New thread titled MASC P2W and needs a nerf.

[CycKath]

Dingo Red, on 16 June 2015 - 04:21 PM, said:

The only real problem in terms of complexity is the lack of a proper tutorial. There needs to be a tutorial introducing the player to mech controls that's far better than that sad little tutorial we have now, and another one introducing the player to the basics of mech customization and the mech lab in general.

THIS

[Jabilac]

I also think the game has a learning curve. Kinda steep sometimes but what game doesn't? Mobas overload their players with learning countless heroes and moves then complicate it more with having to learn the equipment system and how it interacts with everything. This game still needs an updated new player experience but I don't think its getting to be too much.

[Burktross]

Gattsus, on 16 June 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Steam release cod players incoming.
I'll let this thought sink for a while.

Not cod so much as tf2 and scrub-s-go. Cod is for console kidz

Edited by Burktross, 16 June 2015 - 05:00 PM.

[GenghisJr]

I have run out of keys on the tartarus game pad I use so could not use masc without ditching another control. Never mind, I dont have any mechs that use it. Here is an idea though...
We have two keys being used for arty/air strike, however only one can be equipped on a mech - how about combine the air/arty key to free up one key on the keyboard?

[Zensei]

Jabilac, on 16 June 2015 - 04:58 PM, said:

I also think the game has a learning curve. Kinda steep sometimes but what game doesn't? Mobas overload their players with learning countless heroes and moves then complicate it more with having to learn the equipment system and how it interacts with everything. This game still needs an updated new player experience but I don't think its getting to be too much.

Maybe if there wasn't a cost association with it, it seems that any new addition to this game has one. I cant keep up with the cost of everything, I completely understand the concept of free to play and it is everything but free to play. being a gamer is expensive with hardware and now this FTP cost. I just spent over a grand to update my hardware and I can not keep up anymore. PGI throws a bone now and then but what am I supposed to do with 3 centurions that cant keep up. I'm really surprised that I'm not getting any support here. Why stay at all?

[Quick n Fast]

Zensei, on 16 June 2015 - 05:09 PM, said:

I'm really surprised that I'm not getting any support here. Why stay at all?

You are the weakest link, goodbye!

[Jabilac]

Zensei, on 16 June 2015 - 05:09 PM, said:

Maybe if there wasn't a cost association with it, it seems that any new addition to this game has one. I cant keep up with the cost of everything, I completely understand the concept of free to play and it is everything but free to play. being a gamer is expensive with hardware and now this FTP cost. I just spent over a grand to update my hardware and I can not keep up anymore. PGI throws a bone now and then but what am I supposed to do with 3 centurions that cant keep up. I'm really surprised that I'm not getting any support here. Why stay at all?

You should enjoy the game for what it offers. If you can't then maybe its time to take a break for a while. I don't buy the new mech packs and still enjoy what this game has to offer. I still drop in centurions the D and AH and have fun. Large engine, big gun and some srms. Hang out with the big guys until the fight starts then zoom around while they are worried about the Direwolf or Stalkers.

[Zensei]

Kahnawake MechMaster Prime, on 16 June 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

You are the weakest link, goodbye!

You liked your own comment but you know what you are probably right, yeah I think I have had enough of this game.

[Soy]

Kahnawake MechMaster Prime, on 16 June 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

You are the weakest link, goodbye!

liked your own comment, ultramegasuperfail deluxe comment-of-the-year limited edition

[Quick n Fast]

Zensei, on 16 June 2015 - 05:23 PM, said:

You liked your own comment but you know what you are probably right, yeah I think I have had enough of this game.

Well when ur bad ur bad, it cant be helped..
but no one heres crying for you..
u came here qq'ing about something soo small even a child can do it..
ull find no sympathy here...
Real Mechwarriors dont QQ ....

[TyphonCh]

Zensei, on 16 June 2015 - 04:52 PM, said:

It is not just the 1 more button, and its not just the 1 mech that has it, its the progression to get it. I think that to me the worst of it is that I am completely misunderstood, the first 4 comments shoot down my concerns, My concerns do not matter and that is a huge point that is forcing me away from the game, I do not have twenty thousand posts, but I have been here since the beginning, I dont need thousands of posts to be heard. And the forum is full of boring as the game is full of boring and if that is Russ's goal, PGI's goal, then you hit it. 544 posts later and I'm completely bored with this.

Well to be fair you're not making a very convincing statement that there IS a problem. In fact, reading the OP again I still can't find any evidence of a problem that applies to anyone that has ever played a FPS. Your rant starts with a fairly lame assumption that everyone is gunning for MASC, and that no one new is going to be able to figure it out. Then it congeals into this 'the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many'. Not making much sense to me.
It's one more keybind on 6 or so total mechs. They'll get over it
It doesn't take a seasoned gamer with top of the line equipment and 100, 000 hours of gaming experience under their belt to figure this game out. And I, also don't have 20, 000 posts, only being active for a year and a half. It doesn't matter. You can't hold everyone's hand. I for one enjoy an in depth game with complex mechanics and many variables. It makes for a more interesting experience. What it comes down to is either you'll hate it, or like it. Those who like it will take the time to get used to it and just enjoy MWO for what it is. Walking tanks shooting eachother.