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#21 Naglinator

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 09:40 AM

View PostVellron2005, on 18 June 2015 - 04:42 AM, said:

Well, I for one would LOVE to see a proper Battletech movie franchise..

In my opinion, there is only ONE man with enough devotion to a project that could take on such an epic franchise.

Its NOT MIchael Bay..

Its His Majesty... Peter Jackson.

Granted, he has never done sci-if, but he has the devotion, the drive, and the know-how of big projects, so I think he would do a great job.

The movie should be a trillogy featuring the First the fall of the SLDF, Amaris rebellion, the deaths of the Camerons, and the first exodus. The second movie should feature the expolits of the Wolf's Dragoons, their coming to the inner sphere, and preparations for the clan invasion. The third movie should feature the Clan Invasion, including the battle of Tukayyid, and the War of Refusal, and end in the anihilation of the Smoke Jaguars.

If you want to make it not about galactic events, but about "that one hero", simply follow the exploits of the Wolf's Dragoons and Jamie and Joshua Wolf.

His Majesty Peter Jackson? His track record is hardly stellar. Brain Dead, King Kong and ALL the Hobbit Films are BAD. Well okay, Brain Dead kinda has an Evil Dead charm to it, but the rest are not good. The three LOTR films? Okay, pretty good but he was working with gold to begin with. Awesome books and a huge budget. Most battletech books are written pretty poorly so i doubt he'd be able to pull anything good outa them.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:01 AM

I'm kind of suprised that no one mentioned Guillermo del Toro.

I don't mind Michael Bay movies, but Transformers was a lot of noise to me.

Pacific Rim on the other hand, was giant robots piloted by humans.

The machines had character, and so did their pilots.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:14 PM

Honest;y, given how the Entertainment industry has changed things when making films from books, I would prefer they stay away from written stories, do something completely new within lore, a part of the story never told.

Example, during the first Clan Invasion, there are many thing told about the Wolves and the Falcons, many in depth stories of characters there on both sides of the conflicts, there is some detail of the part involving the Jaguars and characters there, but the Bears conflicts does not have much detail to it. If I did such a film/TV treatment, I would do a story following the Bears invasion corridor.

4th Succession War? Lot on Davion vs Liao, Davion vs Kurita, I think some on Steiner vs Marik, not much on Steiner vs Kurita so that's where I'd be.

Going to conflicts where there is less Lore detail gives creative freedom to do something new without offending Lore diehards too much since you have less chance of changing anything written as has happened to other book to film treatments.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 12:58 PM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 17 June 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

A movie made by Michal Bay is a movie best not made at all.

I couldn't agree more, if they do make a movie give it to someone who knows how to make a good movie.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:04 PM

James Cameron? His movies are usually pretty good.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:11 PM

I could see it now, some random bimbo leaning up against a mech.
Explosions galore
Mark Walberg speaking in a terrible accent to remind to us constantly "Im a Mechwarrior! It's what I do!"
A terrible third act and a horribly rushed ending because he spent too much of his budget on cgi things humping the bimbo's leg.
I bet he'd make the mechs talk and give them terrible accents too.
He'd have nothing but the flames and Phranken camospecs on every mech.

#27 Alec Braca

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 05:02 PM

View PostTywren, on 18 June 2015 - 09:30 AM, said:


Between the inital clan invasion, and The Great Refusal there are somthing like 10 books, there's no way you could cover it all in one move, or even 3. I think you'd need HBO to give it the GoT treatment to do it justice.



Or Adian Pryde, the Legend of the Jade Phoenix does the staring hero think very well.

I think that is a great idea. I was looking at this all wrong. In order to tell a good proper story to captivate the audience, it needs to be done WELL and that takes time. GoT/Vikings/Washington's Spies have been pretty damn successful. There could be a MW or BT series taking its time, finding good actors, and making a good story to fit around the lore. I don't think HBO half-asses and I hope it never does.

#28 Telmasa

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 06:09 PM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 17 June 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

A movie made by Michal Bay is a movie best not made at all.



So much this. F*** Michael Bay.

Get Guillermo Del Toro on the phone.

#29 Black Ivan

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 10:17 PM

Michael Bay, no thanks.

#30 The Great Unwashed

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:41 AM

View PostCeltic Warrior, on 18 June 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

James Cameron? His movies are usually pretty good.


Hmm, dunno, I find his movies of late to be remarkably devoid of character and immersion; Avatar was particularly dull and predictable.

You need someone who understands visual effects but can also be a fun actor's director; I think JJ Abrams for the newest SW is just perfect for the genre, hitting the right balance with fun cardboard characters and CGI action, keeping up the pace and having some of the actors actually do their work. As a Trek fan I have to admit I found his latest movies quite entertaining. Quite entertaining, that is what you should aim for. I do hope he'll go a bit easier on the visual pacing as with SW; sometimes there's so much fluff on the screen details are lost(Did you see those automated attack drones detach from the Dreadnought and attack the Enterprise in TrekII mkII? Neither did I but they are there...) and the scripts he uses do not make any sense... but I'm cautiously optimistic that I'll actually enjoy a new SW movie.

I'd rather have Paul Thomas Anderson, Alexander Payne, David Fincher or the Coen brothers at the helm, but they'll never 'lower' themselves to space opera, so I have to be content with what they produce ;) SF wise Ridley Scott is my best bet for enjoying SF responsibly.. Prometheus 2 is scheduled for 2016...

Edited by The Great Unwashed, 19 June 2015 - 03:49 AM.


#31 White Bear 84

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:53 AM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 17 June 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

A movie made by Michal Bay is a movie best not made at all.


Yeah he did to Transformers what George Lucas did to Star Wars.. ..what next, ewok robots with walkie talkies? :P

Definitely not whats his name from The Last Airbender lol. Shamallamashaka man..

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J.J. Abrams if you ask me. Just waiting to see if he has toned down the lens flare for the new Star Wars :P

Ahhh gawd.. ..Spielberg could do it if he got over aliens trying to find a way home..

Edited by White Bear 84, 19 June 2015 - 03:56 AM.


#32 Rushin Roulette

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:55 AM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 17 June 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

A movie made by Michal Bay is a movie best not made at all.

Could be worse... how about M. Night Shyamalan instead then?

Edited by Rushin Roulette, 19 June 2015 - 03:56 AM.


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 03:57 AM

View PostAlec Braca, on 18 June 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

I don't like Michael Bay as well but people seem to be throwing money at him to make more of these fudging movies BUT maybe some of the others would want to do it. It just always comes down to money and if someone has a few million to spend (and we know they do) they could take a leap of faith.


Ironically it isn't sunshine and rainbows for Michael Bay either.

He actually strongly advised against making a 4th Transformers movie. This is why it seems so bad as it was meant to end at number 3. The ending had to be re-thought as a middle and a new ending has to be made and with different characters as it wouldn't make sense with the previous ones.

I feel rather sad for both parties =c

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:03 AM

Shymalan's Sixth Sense was quite ok, but he seems to be the type of director that makes a good movie once by accident, like the Wachowski's (Matrix I), Brian Singer (Usual Suspects), or Neil Blomkamp (District 9, sort of liked the first two-thirds).

My brain starts hemorrhaging just thinking about Signs... with Mel Gibson.. must... resist ...

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ANYWAY, if the Robotech movie isn't sent back to development hell, doesn't suck and actually makes a bit of money, a BT movie might happen. Wiki says Sony put a director on Robotech 3 weeks ago... Movement, signals clean, range 20 meters...

A BT movie might just be ok if it is this bad


Edited by The Great Unwashed, 19 June 2015 - 04:11 AM.


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Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:34 AM

View PostCeltic Warrior, on 18 June 2015 - 01:04 PM, said:

James Cameron? His movies are usually pretty good.

Cameron, another no. He is more obsessed with Avatar sequels, still working on 3 of them, obsessions over the Titanic and a few other ships, then there was Sanctum.

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 04:49 AM

If people thought the mechs in Dancing with Smurfs(Avatar) were cool, they would be blown away with a properly done battletech/mechwarrior movie.

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 05:29 AM

View PostThe Great Unwashed, on 17 June 2015 - 05:54 AM, said:

A movie made by Michal Bay is a movie best not made at all.


LOL.

OK -- I'm usually the first one to slag Michael Bay (including previously in these forums), especially for the Transformers line of films. In my humble opinion, he really is not the right guy for the Transformers franchise.

THAT SAID, the guy actually does have some talent in directing war films. If you could get the guy some proper writers, and you geared BT/MW as more of a futuristic WAR film, I think he could actually make it work pretty well.

Now, if you'd rather have something more like a kitschy spectacle (like Pacific Rim or what the Transformers franchise was trying to be, but failed miserably), then I think Guillermo or someone like that would be much better suited.

But I think it really all depends on how you'd want the feel of the movie to go. Truth be told, I think the success/failure of a BT/MW movie would hinge much more on the quality of the story-writing than it would on the actual choice of director. Even a "great" director could tank this franchise without a compelling story behind it. Or at least lots of really kick-a$$ special effects if you just go the spectacle route. :)

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 06:02 AM

View PostHighTest, on 19 June 2015 - 05:29 AM, said:

THAT SAID, the guy actually does have some talent in directing war films.


Really? I prefer Tora! Tora! Tora! over his Pearl Harbor version. :)

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:11 AM

Ok so we need
1. A director that would be pretty good.
-Del Toro
-Joss Whedon
-JJ Abrams
-Ridley Scott
2. $$$
-I do not think a decently done movie nowadays would cost too much. Not asking for a blockbuster here.
-Personally, I would like a descent amount of CGI but only where is it actually NEEDED. We don't need ppl in front of a green screen the whole time.
3. A good story .That's tough on "where to start in the BT/MW universe. We have:
-The Jade Pheonix Series
-Early days of the Star League
-Clan invasion...men (I think there needs to be a firm base established before you start adding MORE factions)
-4th Succession War
-Maybe ANYWHERE else out in the periphery where lots of things can happen. Take Decision at Thunder Rift for example, that would do well being made into a series/movie.

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Posted 19 June 2015 - 09:50 AM

MWO: CW The Movie

Staring Nicholas Cage, Johnny Depp, Sylvester Stallone, Obama, Putin (insert some names)

A giant wall with some gates

A big gun that booms every now and then

Some generators in boxes

VOIP

2 hours of get to the gun, I built that, Stop shooting holes in my mech, NOOOOB, Why did you bring that mech you worm..





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