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#1 Ted Wayz

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 08:02 PM

Sometimes I wish I could have a group with weapons set to chain fire and not to chain fire. Say you have 6 medium lasers in group 2 and to manage heat you want to fire 3 together and have the other 3 chain fire. That would be sweet.

Why not put a check box for chain fire next to each weapon. You could still allow selection of chain fire for groups for those that prefer that method.

#2 YueFei

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 08:38 PM

You could set up with:
Group 1 : 3xMLas in left arm, group fired
Group 2 : 3xMLas in right arm, group fired
Group 3 : 3xMLas in left arm, chain fire
Group 4 : 3xMLas in right arm, chain fire

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:11 PM

View PostYueFei, on 17 June 2015 - 08:38 PM, said:

You could set up with:
Group 1 : 3xMLas in left arm, group fired
Group 2 : 3xMLas in right arm, group fired
Group 3 : 3xMLas in left arm, chain fire
Group 4 : 3xMLas in right arm, chain fire


This is exactly what I do, as well as having a 5th weapon group to chain fire any of them.

#4 bad arcade kitty

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:17 PM

its a secret plot to make you buy mice with million buttons

#5 Vxheous

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:20 PM

Poeple that play computer games with a two button mouse is now the exception, not the norm.

#6 Mystere

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:21 PM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 17 June 2015 - 09:17 PM, said:

its a secret plot to make you buy mice with million buttons


Why buy a mouse when a G13 is better? :wub:

Now if only Logitech also made a right-handed G13. :(

View PostVxheous Kerensky, on 17 June 2015 - 09:20 PM, said:

Poeple that play computer games with a two button mouse is now the exception, not the norm.


Meh! I use a trackball, and always have. :D

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:26 PM

View PostTed Wayz, on 17 June 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:

Sometimes I wish I could have a group with weapons set to chain fire and not to chain fire. Say you have 6 medium lasers in group 2 and to manage heat you want to fire 3 together and have the other 3 chain fire. That would be sweet.

Why not put a check box for chain fire next to each weapon. You could still allow selection of chain fire for groups for those that prefer that method.

There are 6 weapon groups available to you. Use more than 2.

#8 Madcap72

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 10:14 PM

View PostMystere, on 17 June 2015 - 09:21 PM, said:


Why buy a mouse when a G13 is better? :wub:

Now if only Logitech also made a right-handed G13. :(



Meh! I use a trackball, and always have. :D

LOL I do too when I'm goofing around c-bill farming racked out.


Then again I've been using a trackball since MW had mouse support, so it's not that bad.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:18 AM

View Postbad arcade kitty, on 17 June 2015 - 09:17 PM, said:

its a secret plot to make you buy mice with million buttons

Yup, I bought such mice and returned it, because I couldn't click more than two buttons at once. Tried to find some info about it, but all I found was about keyboards. Now I'm not even thinking about getting new mice with more than two buttons and wheel.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:26 AM

View PostJustEvil, on 18 June 2015 - 01:18 AM, said:

Yup, I bought such mice and returned it, because I couldn't click more than two buttons at once. Tried to find some info about it, but all I found was about keyboards. Now I'm not even thinking about getting new mice with more than two buttons and wheel.

What mouse did you buy? Logitech G600 is excellent:



If you notice, it has 3 large "main" buttons on top. And of course you can set a gaming mouse like this in a million ways.

I tried like 6 different gaming mice before settling on this.

#11 Elizander

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 01:27 AM

I want to chain fire weapon groups.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:52 AM

View PostJustEvil, on 18 June 2015 - 01:18 AM, said:

Yup, I bought such mice and returned it, because I couldn't click more than two buttons at once. Tried to find some info about it, but all I found was about keyboards. Now I'm not even thinking about getting new mice with more than two buttons and wheel.


I use this mouse too and it is excellent.

I will say one negative thing about it though and that is unless you're really coordinated and have a supple thumb you will have difficulty using all of those side buttons. I use most of them but the third column of buttons is tricky for me, probably because the face of the buttons tilts towards the back of the mouse rather than forwards.

That said, there are so many buttons on it that you actually don't need that third column and you are likely to still have some spare... for when they add extra things like MASC to the game! ;)

#13 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 04:12 AM

It would be kind of neat if the game had sort of a built in macro syatem to chain fire groups at a push of a button.

If macros are allowed anyway, might as well level the playing field and let everyone else have access to it with an in game version.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 04:40 AM

View PostTed Wayz, on 17 June 2015 - 08:02 PM, said:

Sometimes I wish I could have a group with weapons set to chain fire and not to chain fire. Say you have 6 medium lasers in group 2 and to manage heat you want to fire 3 together and have the other 3 chain fire. That would be sweet.

Why not put a check box for chain fire next to each weapon. You could still allow selection of chain fire for groups for those that prefer that method.

If you have a Razor Naga you can do what you are looking to do.

#15 Mystere

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 06:56 AM

View PostElizander, on 18 June 2015 - 01:27 AM, said:

I want to chain fire weapon groups.


Use a macro. :ph34r:

Or get a G13 and assign buttons 1-6 to your groups.

Better yet, get a G13 and use macros. :D

Edited by Mystere, 18 June 2015 - 06:58 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2015 - 07:16 AM

PGI had this in a poll 6 months or so back for players to vote on priority of additions to the game, this was actually voted pretty high on the list. But I believe maps won out by a land slide, and some other things.

#17 Ted Wayz

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 02:50 PM

I have a Razr Naga for my desktop. Unfortunately I have a Roccat XTD for my laptop, the one the shift key doesn't work on.

But I am also not a mouse snob and think you should be ale to play this game on a two button mouse.

Also I have notice my scores are inversely proportional to how complicated my mouse setup is. So not requiring two mouse clicks when one would do IMO would be better.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:01 PM

I wouldn't actually reccomend using mouse buttons other than left and right for weapon groups. Anything that isn't straight top-down will throw off your aim a bit to click. I find it a lot simpler to bind the remaining weapon groups to the keyboard (left shift, capslock, and alt are what I use).

That said, it's possible for six weapon groups to not be quite enough. I.E. one for left arm weapons, one for right arm weapons, one for CT weapons, one for TAG, one for a single LRM/SRM launcher, then you only have room for one more, and thus can't have a chainfire group for left and right arm.

I'd prefer that the chainfire key applied to all weapon groups at once. So you could group your weapons how you liked then hit chainfire so that all groups move to chain.

Edited by AEgg, 18 June 2015 - 03:01 PM.


#19 Moldur

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 03:11 PM

The way I do what you want to do, OP is have 1 group set to all same lasers group fire and another to all lasers chain fire. Chain fire 3 lasers then do the group fire. The 3 that got chainfired are on cooldown, so the effect is the same.

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Posted 18 June 2015 - 04:05 PM

View PostTed Wayz, on 18 June 2015 - 02:50 PM, said:

But I am also not a mouse snob and think you should be ale to play this game on a two button mouse.


I haven't used a two button mouse for games since 1995...


Heck multi-button mice are excellent for work as well where you can build macros into them to accomplish things faster.





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