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[RustyBolts]

This is my pesonal opinion on how Clan Mechs rate, broken down in PUG and CW matches.
Pug.

Tier 1
Storm Crow (Speed and Firepower)
Timber Wolf (Speed and Firepower)

Tier 2
Hell Bringer (ECM and decent Firepower)
Dire Wolf (Lots of firepower, moves like a building stuck in mud)
Ebon Jaguar (Speed and Firepower) May actually end up a Tier 1 once advanced out.

Tier 3
Executioner (A slow Gargoyle with less free space than a medium)
Gargoyle (A fast Ecxecutioner with less free space than a medium)
Warhawk (Is as big as a Direwolf with a lot less firepower)
Ice Ferret (Fast striker that can take some hits)
Mad Dog (Great support mech)
NOVA (good escort for heavies and assaults)

Tier 4
Summoner (Suckoner for a reason. Less free space than almost every mech except a light)
Adder (Removing that damn flamer was a great first step)
KitFox (Slow, and is easily disarmed)
Mistlynx (Fast jumper that blows up if sneezed on)





CW

Tier 1
Storm Crow (Speed and Firepower)
Timber Wolf (Speed and Firepower)

Tier 2
Hell Bringer (ECM and decent Firepower)
Ebon Jaguar (Speed and Firepower) May actually end up a Tier 1 once advanced out.

Tier 3
Ice Ferret (Fast striker that can take some hits)
Mad Dog (Great support mech)
NOVA (good escort for heavies and assaults)

Tier 4
Dire Wolf (weighs too much and is too damn slow)
Executioner (Weighs too much and not enough firepower)
Gargoyle (See Executioner)
Warhawk (See Executioner)
Summoner (Just sucks)
Adder (Only used as a filler for free space in a drop deck)
KitFox (See Adder)
Mist Lynx (See Adder)

So what is my usually drop deck? Right now I am using

EBJ, EBJ, EBJ and IFR. Perfect 240. It will change once I level up the EBJ.

What I was using
TBR, HBR, SCR, IFR. Perfect 240.

Edited by RustyBolts, 18 June 2015 - 08:20 AM.

[mogs01gt]

How is this list any different than anyone else's?

[RustyBolts]

Because it is my personal opinion. You don't like it, move along. No one is forcing you to read it.

[Greenjulius]

I think a drop deck composed of the Lokis, Timbies, Jags and Stormcrows will be the standard in CW until Cheetahs show up. The SCat will be a wildcard, as a stealthy ECM LPL sniper could be very useful, especially at 45 tons.

I think the Jag is Tier 1 for sure once mastered. It has all the makings for a great mech, plus its hitboxes seem great. I've able to spread damage easily with it. However, I think I still personally prefer the Hellbringer. After all, ECM = Easy Crutch Mech.

Edited by Greenjulius, 18 June 2015 - 07:57 AM.

[Chuck Jager]

Greenjulius, on 18 June 2015 - 07:56 AM, said:

I think the Jag is Tier 1 for sure once mastered. It has all the makings for a great mech, plus its hitboxes seem great. I've able to spread damage easily with it. However, I think I still personally prefer the Hellbringer. After all, ECM = Easy Crutch Mech.

I think it should be " ECM + many high points = Easy Crutch Mech".

[ozmodion]

your opinion is fine, but make a point with it!

[RustyBolts]

I did, My point is this is what I rank the Clan Mechs. Move along now. NO ONE is making you read it.

Edited by RustyBolts, 18 June 2015 - 11:04 AM.

[Light-Speed]

IMO the Nova should move up a tier or two with red lasers.

Also, Summoner turns out to be capable of the most powerful pure streak alpha ever (editing what came out wrong)IMO is the best in the world of streak boat powerhouses. With a little footwork/positioning, I'll say at least tier 3. Tier 2 definitely, if you count the fact that if you can do well you get lots of $$ consistently.

Though lack of viable build diversity is a downer for these two mechs. At least, as far as I can tell.

Edited by Nightingale27, 18 June 2015 - 12:16 PM.

[Fate 6]

RustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 07:38 AM, said:

Because it is my personal opinion. You don't like it, move along. No one is forcing you to read it.

And nobody told you to share on the forums, but you did, so we will comment.

Your HBR is too low, same with EBR. Both are tier 1 in CW and normal queue. Nova is tier 2 now, just watch some comp games. Summoner is T3 or T2 because poptart. IFR is tier 2 for CW because of tonnage, maybe normals too because crazy quirks. DWF is tier 1 in normal games, best assault in the game.

Edited by Fate 6, 18 June 2015 - 11:02 AM.

[Rizzelbizzeg]

Why is NOVA capitalized? just curious on your opionion...

[FitzSimmons]

RustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 07:38 AM, said:

Because it is my personal opinion. You don't like it, move along. No one is forcing you to read it.

RustyBolts, on 18 June 2015 - 07:38 AM, said:

I did, My point is this is what I rank the Clan Mechs. Move along now. NO ONE is making you read it. [/color]

A little on the touchy side, RustyBolts.

Edited by FitzSimmons, 18 June 2015 - 11:22 AM.

[Revis Volek]

Nightingale27, on 18 June 2015 - 10:26 AM, said:

IMO the Nova should move up a tier or two with red lasers.

Also, Summoner turns out to be capable of the most powerful pure streak alpha ever. With a little footwork/positioning, I'll say at least tier 3. Tier 2 definitely, since if you can do well you get lots of $$ consistently.

Though lack of viable build diversity is a downer for these two mechs. At least, as far as I can tell.

How can the Summoner out do the MDD?

MDD can run streak 36 (6x SSRM 6's) and SCR still does a better job of light hunting MDD is just a poacher/ waits for light to come to him.

[Light-Speed]

DarthRevis, on 18 June 2015 - 11:35 AM, said:

How can the Summoner out do the MDD?

MDD can run streak 36 (6x SSRM 6's) and SCR still does a better job of light hunting MDD is just a poacher/ waits for light to come to him.

Oh I meant that out of the pure streak boats Summoner is the best because of JJs. Sadly I wandered off in the middle of writing that comment and had a little memory problem when I came back...
sry 'bout that.

Anyways, mobility tends to be the best way to go.

Edited by Nightingale27, 18 June 2015 - 12:11 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

metamechs have way more detailed list

yours is pretty questionable btw

[Speedy Plysitkos]

summooonnner is tier 0.
pf.

[RustyBolts]

@ bad, Been there done that and moved on. I do not do the meta any more. Too freaking boring.

@Titanium. Very funny

[bad arcade kitty]

>I do not do the meta any more.

>Tier 1
>Timber Wolf (Speed and Firepower) - 81-89 top speed, has speed tag

>Tier 2
>Hell Bringer (ECM and decent Firepower) - 81-89 top speed, no speed tag(?)
>Ebon Jaguar (Speed and Firepower) May actually end up a Tier 1 once advanced out. - 81-89 top speed, has speed tag

you seem you don't do a basic stat comparison too

[Dingo Battler]

bad arcade kitty, on 18 June 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

>I do not do the meta any more.

>Tier 1
>Timber Wolf (Speed and Firepower) - 81-89 top speed, has speed tag

>Tier 2
>Hell Bringer (ECM and decent Firepower) - 81-89 top speed, no speed tag(?)
>Ebon Jaguar (Speed and Firepower) May actually end up a Tier 1 once advanced out. - 81-89 top speed, has speed tag

you seem you don't do a basic stat comparison too

I think he's trying to say that the TW is fast for its tonnage and firepower. Most TWs have 50-60 alphas, but can go as fast as a lighter mech.

For the EJ, it has a lot of firepower for its speed, about the same as a TW. Only downside is less armour.

I found his comparison pretty useful reflection of the meta.

With regards to the ranking, I'm not too sure is about the DW being tier 2 given the number of complaints about it, especially solo. Everyone just pours everything into one the moment they see it, and its too sluggish to go anywhere, with a huge CT hitbox too. I guess its earth shattering firepower makes up for it, being able to core mediums in 1 alpha.