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[A banana in the tailpipe]

Ok so tonight I started pugging again after several weeks away from the game. When is PGI going to get it through their thick skulls that allowing premades into PUB matches is unacceptable and drives players away?



They didn't even play well either... just spammed arty strikes the whole match then told us "you can use them too". UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Different day, same ole'Bull hockey. Keep them in the 12s where they belong please. I want this game to thrive, not continue to bleed.

[101011]

*coughcough*name and shame*coughcough* Oh, and sometimes groups do not have 12 players on all the time, and people would like to drop with their friends in 4-mans.

Edited by 101011, 18 May 2014 - 01:58 PM.

[Bront]

There was probably at least 1 4-man on your side as well.

I've dropped against 2 4 mans in a pug and won. You're not going to win them all however.

I shouldn't have to find a 12 man to play with my friends, and private matches aren't very satisfying for long (due to the necessary no rewards).

Edit: There's no name and shame, he's not calling out an individual or even a team.

Edited by Bront, 18 May 2014 - 01:58 PM.

[KHETTI]

Meh would'nt bother Lockwood, i'm getting games where the matchmaker fails to find 24 players, no not players DCing or where its shows them connecting with zero ping.
But just flat out empty slots in teams with no details what so ever.
Piss poor matchmaking will kill this game.

[Flaming oblivion]

Yup the people that will do anything to defend the matchmaker and premades, don't seem to understand the more the MM and premades go on the lower the active player base will go.

[Merrick]

lockwoodx, on 18 May 2014 - 01:55 PM, said:

Ok so tonight I started pugging again after several weeks away from the game. When is PGI going to get it through their thick skulls that allowing premades into PUB matches is unacceptable and drives players away?



They didn't even play well either... just spammed arty strikes the whole match then told us "you can use them too". UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Different day, same ole'Bull hockey. Keep them in the 12s where they belong please. I want this game to thrive, not continue to bleed.

Unfortunatly you seem to have gotten stuck with 2 premade 4 mans there, while not a full 12, 2 lances in voice comms can be destructive. That said, they were 4 mans not 12's, the issue with 12mans ending up in the public que has been fixed. Just really bad luck for you from the MM.

Also since one was Davion and the other Kuritain i doubt it was a sync drop, just a bad roll of the dice.

Edited by Merrick, 18 May 2014 - 02:13 PM.

[Sephlock]

Hey Lyoto!

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Name and shame? Is the population so microscopic that's not allowed? I simply wanted to point out there were premades mixed in with pugs. My bad if feelings get trampled for calling PGI out on needing to do something about it.

[Lyoto Machida]

Look, mom! I'm on TV!!!

For the record, it was me that said solo droppers could use artys also. Unless they've changed that to only allow premades to do so or something.

Sephlock, on 18 May 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

Hey Lyoto!

Haha...I made it into a complaint thread finally!

[A banana in the tailpipe]

Nikolai Lubkiewicz, on 18 May 2014 - 02:16 PM, said:

It is indeed worth noting now that each random 'PUG' match should be having one 2-4 person premade group on each side.

There remains a bug where occasionally the matchmaker will provide a match with two 2-4 person premade groups on one or both sides. We hope to have this resolved ASAP.

ALL Instances of 12 person premades facing off against pick-up groups have been resolved in the last patch. Any real instances of this occuring should be directed to us via Support & Feedback as bugs.

Oh that's still a thing? Ok then well if you're working on it this thread is not necessary to bring to your attention. Feel free to have a mod delete it and thank you for communicating with the community so promptly.

Lyoto Machida, on 18 May 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Look, mom! I'm on TV!!!

For the record, it was me that said solo droppers could use artys also. Unless they've changed that to only allow premades to do so or something.


Haha...I made it into a complaint thread finally!

If only you fought instead of pressed the home button. /smacktalk

[Red1769]

Or just close it...especially since there's already at least 2 matchmaker threads still on the first page...

[Flaming oblivion]

You cant name and shame , God the premades don't want everyone to know who they are, This game puzzles me pre mades get the best stats but are the worst players, seems kinda odd your rewarded for needing a crutch to compete. Its like ecm and meta builds as well rewarded for needing a crutch , If you need a to exploit a broken factor of the game (team work is op / bad weapon equipment balance ) to compete . Whether your stats are good or not you have to except your probably in the bottom 5% of players when it comes to pvp skill , Or you wouldn't need the crutch , That's all , bye!

[Lyoto Machida]

lockwoodx, on 18 May 2014 - 02:28 PM, said:

Oh that's still a thing? Ok then well if you're working on it this thread is not necessary to bring to your attention. Feel free to have a mod delete it and thank you for communicating with the community so promptly.



If only you fought instead of pressed the home button. /smacktalk

Well...not sure how much better the premades could have played, considering "we" (our Kuritan 4man and the unaffiliated Davion lance) got all the kills. Pretty even damage spread all around the three lances.

By the way, my arty is set to "F"...

The two strikes I used were to prevent you guys coming down that ramp from the center as a deterrent. It was just to stall you guys from rejoining the other guys so we could take them out before you got there.

Flaming oblivion, on 18 May 2014 - 02:31 PM, said:

You cant name and shame , God the premades don't want everyone to know who they are, This game puzzles me pre mades get the best stats but are the worst players, seems kinda odd your rewarded for needing a crutch to compete. Its like ecm and meta builds as well rewarded for needing a crutch , If you need a to exploit a broken factor of the game (team work is op / bad weapon equipment balance ) to compete . Whether your stats are good or not you have to except your probably in the bottom 5% of players when it comes to pvp skill , Or you wouldn't need the crutch , That's all , bye!

You got that right...teamwork is OP.

Don't hate the player, hate the game...premades didn't make this game or matchmaker. At least OP's venting is directed toward the right people (ie: PGI).

[Sephlock]

Lyoto Machida, on 18 May 2014 - 02:22 PM, said:

Look, mom I'm on TV

For the record, it was me that said solo droppers could use artys also. Unless they've changed that to only allow premades to do so or something.


Haha...I made it into a complaint thread finally

Lyoto, your new nickname is "Hakan"

[Goose]

101011, on 18 May 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

*coughcough*name and shame*coughcough*

Congrats on teh Jr. Detective Badge, Buckie! How much TP did you go through?

[Bront]

Flaming oblivion, on 18 May 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

Yup the people that will do anything to defend the matchmaker and premades, don't seem to understand the more the MM and premades go on the lower the active player base will go.

The matchmaker is a POS at times, but preventing players from playing with their friends will kill a game as well. You need a good balance, and currently there isn't one. The new incoming system may be a step in the right direction, or it may make the situation worse (I expect it to make it worse for groups, like we saw earlier where 2 man teams couldn't find matches)

[Flaming oblivion]

Bront, on 18 May 2014 - 03:02 PM, said:

The matchmaker is a POS at times, but preventing players from playing with their friends will kill a game as well. You need a good balance, and currently there isn't one. The new incoming system may be a step in the right direction, or it may make the situation worse (I expect it to make it worse for groups, like we saw earlier where 2 man teams couldn't find matches)

Personally I'd like the game to remove premades or make it harder for them , Pre mades learn to be good at pvp without crutch , and pugs don't have to be destroyed by unskilled players crutches, everyone wins . The guys that really need to l2p actually learn , Remove that crutch pgi .

[Merrick]

Flaming oblivion, on 18 May 2014 - 03:08 PM, said:

Personally I'd like the game to remove premades or make it harder for them , Pre mades learn to be good at pvp without crutch , and pugs don't have to be destroyed by unskilled players crutches, everyone wins . The guys that really need to l2p actually learn , Remove that crutch pgi .

Mechwarrior Online is a TEAM game, that's why you drop with 12 total player on each side PERIOD. if you want a solo game, go play MW4 or Mech Assault and leave this game alone.

[101011]

Goose, on 18 May 2014 - 02:42 PM, said:

Congrats on teh Jr. Detective Badge, Buckie! How much TP did you go through?

About 43 rolls, give or take 57.

[Sevrid]

Merrick, on 18 May 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

Unfortunatly you seem to have gotten stuck with 2 premade 4 mans there, while not a full 12, 2 lances in voice comms can be destructive.

And that sort of hits another topic that has been beaten to death....where are in game voice comms?. Sure people use TS and Vent, but I knew me and my clan mates would still use in game comms so we can...I don't know... communicate, people communicating with other pugs would be able to counter premades pretty easily.

Edited by Sevrid, 18 May 2014 - 03:23 PM.