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[Kiiyor]

Alistair Winter, on 26 June 2015 - 11:46 AM, said:

...I prefer a quick suicide to the guys who power down or let the enemies chase them for 5 minutes before running out of bounds.

Yeah, this. If defeat is inevitable, I think of it as being akin to ejecting, and I don't have a problem with it. Sure, you're denying someone on the enemy team a kill, but If it gets everyone back into another match faster it's a sacrifice i'm prepared to let someone else make.

I don't do it myself though, probably because my genius tactical mind will have predicted our impending defeat and I would have selflessly thrown myself at the enemy in a last ditch attempt to turn the tide. Which is just a different way of saying I've almost always died ineffectually while cursing my team at this point

[Davegt27]

If I put dual ac20s on my Jager I don’t have to hit override to blow up

Just pull the trigger 3 times and boom!

[LordNothing]

never do i use override to intentionally suicide. usually i blow myself uo for one of these reasons:

if im in a situation i cant get out of (such as being legged and surrounded) i will switch override on and fire at the enemy till i die to cause as much damage as possible before i check out. this is better than getting in one shot, shutting down and getting killed, or not firing and getting killed with no damage return. this is an always dead situation.

if there is an enemy nearby that is about to keil over and die if you just sneeze on it, but your sinks are currently saturated. override and take it out, when it dies slam the shutdown button and cross your fingers. most of the time i survive this kind of thing (though usually with considerable damage).

sometimes i will override going into battle and use my cool shots to get out of red line situations. when i run out il switch off the override if i think i have time to cool down, such as if battle goes well. if it doesn't i sometimes forget to switch it off and end up dieing because of it.

the thing that usually kills me is when i hit override to terminate an auto shutdown and forget about it. i did that last night and was cored red before i caught it.


there are some things they can do to help prevent some of these situations.

1 hitting a button to fire a cool shot should override the shutdown for the duration of the shot.
2 overriding while shut/shutting down should be automatically disengaged when heat drops below the shutdown threshold. only overriding while heat is below redline should be permanent toggle.
3 betty's audible heat warning needs to take priority of all other warnings/notifications. perhaps preceeding the warning with a distinct easily recognizable sound, such as a series of rapid beeps, to help improve override/cool shot reaction times.
4 allow firing of cool shots while shut down.
that should help the unintentional suicides. i dont think you can stop intentional ones.

[Mystere]

Big Black Wolf, on 26 June 2015 - 04:28 PM, said:

There is nothing better than having 5 heavily damaged mechs on the enemy team. If you are experienced and pilot what I pilot that is. Then it's lunch time!

I would straight out ban such pilots like the TW. Someone like this doesn't belong onto the battlefield but into a petting zoo.

Yeah, as if people have always fought to the death and never ever retreated from a real battlefield.

[Alardus]

Midax, on 26 June 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

I think that is reportable behavior isn't it? Intentonally killing yourself to stop the other team from gaining rewards for killing you.

Go ahead and be the personal police to verify it, let's see how long before you give up.

[Moldur]

If I am a dead man walking in a brawl gone bad, I will turn override on for the small chance that I can kill this guy before I die.

I usually don't think ahead enough to suicide out of spite, but I mean.. I wouldn't blame you if you did.

Edited by Moldur, 26 June 2015 - 10:36 PM.

[Alardus]

DaZur, on 26 June 2015 - 12:03 PM, said:

Regular run of the mill daily games? Dirty pool and completely uncalled for...

We're in the middle of a tournament? I'm okay if you're the last-man-standing against overwhelming odds to override punch-out and deprive the other team of what amounts to easy points.

When points count it's strategic deprivation... Otherwise it's just stupid KDR shielding.

Because blowing yourself up shields your KDR, right?

[Chuck Jager]

Midax, on 26 June 2015 - 11:47 AM, said:

I think that is reportable behavior isn't it? Intentonally killing yourself to stop the other team from gaining rewards for killing you.

It is the most fun I have. When I see 2 v 1 and their team is winning by 4 or more I always hit over ride. I will always get extra damage and hopefully deny them a kill. I have been given the right to kill steal from the enemy by PGI. If they are up by 4 and can not take me down quickly, I feel they deserve zero credit. I also really hate the enabling the folks who get really brave at the end of the match when the real players have already died (just my 2 cents).

Of course if we are not obviously loosing or I am not surrounded by their team, it is my job to push our team as far as possible before I bite it.

[Pjwned]

I do suicide by overheating, but rarely do I suicide by firing into the ground unless the game was particularly awful; I will usually just turn on override if I'm about to get gangbanged by 4+ mechs and I go out in a blaze of glory.

The pilot in question in OP's story is clearly a moron because there's no good reason to suicide like that when you're only outnumbered by a few mechs, you have a damaged but still workable 75 ton mech, and you even have not 1 but 2 fast light mechs to help.

I would have chewed out that pilot so hard if I saw that happen.

[Abisha]

suicide is a perfect legit combat action.

why give your free kill to the enemy, make sure you suicide your self before they get your kill.
done it a few times feels good knowing them they despise me for doing so.

[Whatzituyah]

Couldn't this be considered team killing aswell? You are part of your own team and killing yourself really is killing a part of the team so you team kill yourself. Even if you do kill yourself usually I am like "Oh well on to the next mech to make scrap metal out of..." so jokes on you. They might aswell give an eject button ingame to kill yourself if they are going to allow it.

[QuantumButler]

No

I generally turn override on if I'm surrounded or the last man standing, but usually use it to squeeze a couple more alphas worth of damage out while going down fighting instead of just dying in the middle of nowhere like some people do.

Abisha, on 27 June 2015 - 12:39 AM, said:

suicide is a perfect legit combat action.

why give your free kill to the enemy, make sure you suicide your self before they get your kill.
done it a few times feels good knowing them they despise me for doing so.

Commit honorable sudoku

[TexAce]

Mystere, on 26 June 2015 - 10:28 PM, said:

Yeah, as if people have always fought to the death and never ever retreated from a real battlefield.

As if that is comparable to losing the life of a mech on your screen, which is made out of pixels.

[Mudhutwarrior]

It's a game. People play the way they want to. If it bothers you so much buy out PGI can change the rules.

Shame means a whole hill of beans here.

Thread is idiocy plus.

[Piney II]

One must protect the KDR at all costs..........

I don't understand the suicide mentality. I live for a good fight, win or lose, and I will fight until I'm dropped.

[Nightshade24]

This is why they should add eject to normal que.

[RustyBolts]

I have blown myself up before by hitting override. If I know I am the last one left, I will hit override and push my self to the limits in the hope of getting a kill before I get crushed. However, I would NEVER hit override and alpha strike something other than the enemy in order to blow myself up.

[Joseph Mallan]

DjPush, on 26 June 2015 - 11:42 AM, said:

Overide shut down to suicide.

As a glutton for punishment I decided to take out my AS7-K and work on some builds. Dropped in Tourmaline and had a decent group of PUGs. So I thought. Team showed good signs of movement, worked together, focused targets and we were up by a kill. As the score hit 6 to 5 a Timberwolf on our team decided to follow the 2 friendly Ravens and chase some random dorito 600 meters away.

Long story short the group they left behind put up the best fight they could. We ripped the armor off of the remaining enemy mechs and even killed one or two.

So now it's the Timberwolf with 2 ERLL and 4 ERML at 84% armor and 2 Ravens to finish the fight against 5 heavily damaged mechs. I've seen it done. However, that isn't what happened. The Timberwolf turns to face the rocks, hits the overide key and alpha strikes until he dies from over heating. The poor ravens gave it their all but we ended up losing the match.

You know who you are... Knock it off.

Problem is posts like this only reinforce their desire to do it more Dj.

[Zoid]

Thought this was going to go differently at first with someone complaining about an overheat suicide robbing them of a kill. That is perfectly fine and I do it all the time. If I am at a big disadvantage and overheating, I'll override and unload into the enemy 'mechs until I melt.

This though is a pure **** move. If he had died from firing into the enemy 'mechs with override on it's one thing, but just killing yourself because you've decided your team doesn't deserve to win should be a bannable offense.

[caseysrevenge]

How do you want to prove to PGI that he did it on purpose without the evidence on video.
This things happen so don't think to long over it and play on.
Maybe he thought his team abanded him and out of revenge he killed him self who knows ????