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[Kyra Legion]

Had a idiot telling me thet he will report me for not following TOS in game when I only have one leg and no weapons so I did power down as I was hiding when I was the last in the game. So where do that show that I violence the TOS.

Thank Kyra

[Spheroid]

You were wasting everyone's time. What exactly did you hope to accomplish by hiding? You are holding people's mechs hostage while the match continues.

Edited by Spheroid, 27 June 2015 - 11:27 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Spheroid, on 27 June 2015 - 11:26 AM, said:

You were wasting everyone's time. What exactly did you hope to accomplish by hiding?

Maybe it was Conquest and they won by points?
Not enough details to be sure.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 27 June 2015 - 11:27 AM.

[Mcgral18]

Refusal to fight, dragging on the match for no reason.


If it was conquest, you might have a point, but otherwise you're out of luck.

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Persistent non-participation in core game mechanics.

http://mwomercs.com/...nduct-expanded/

[Spheroid]

^If it was conquest nobody would have complained since the rebuttal would be so clear and valid.

[stjobe]

If you had participated in the match previous to shutting down, you were not in violation of the ToS.

For reference: Terms of Use and Code of Conduct.

[Mcgral18]

Of course, a single offence won't cause anything to happen.

Code also says:

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Accidental triggering of an issue will rarely be of concern, though repeated abuse of any such issue reported to us will frequently be met with a warning or sanction.

[LordNothing]

all this bs about people getting reported for shutting down, people getting reported for giving away those that shut down, people being reported for whatever. if i was pgi i would filter most of those reports into oblivion. nobody likes a boat rocker, especially the captain.

[TWIAFU]

LordNothing, on 27 June 2015 - 12:52 PM, said:

all this bs about people getting reported for shutting down, people getting reported for giving away those that shut down, people being reported for whatever. if i was pgi i would filter most of those reports into oblivion. nobody likes a boat rocker, especially the captain.

Stop doing it and won't have a problem

We agree to play by a set of rules given to us by PGI. You do not want to lay by the same rules as everyone else, you will not be playing.

Easy. Simple.

stjobe, on 27 June 2015 - 11:31 AM, said:

If you had participated in the match previous to shutting down, you were not in violation of the ToS.

For reference: Terms of Use and Code of Conduct.

And neither of them state what you say they do. He can go read them and see for himself.

[Alan Davion]

TWIAFU, on 27 June 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

Stop doing it and won't have a problem

We agree to play by a set of rules given to us by PGI. You do not want to lay by the same rules as everyone else, you will not be playing.

Easy. Simple.

Wow, nice jump to conclusions there bud. It's people like you that are likely the source of the problem with all this crap.

Kyra did, as far as I can tell, nothing wrong, as they participated in the game to the point of being rendered legged and zombified, so whoever this joker was doesn't have a leg to stand on with regards to ToS violations.

[Monkey Lover]

They need to remove the kdr stats.

[Monkey Lover]

Alan Davion, on 27 June 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:

Wow, nice jump to conclusions there bud. It's people like you that are likely the source of the problem with all this crap.

Kyra did, as far as I can tell, nothing wrong, as they participated in the game to the point of being rendered legged and zombified, so whoever this joker was doesn't have a leg to stand on with regards to ToS violations.

"Non-Participation Abuse
If a player has joined a match, they must have launched the game with intent to play. Players who are not moving, or are otherwise not participating in the spirit of the game, fall under this category."

He was not moving or participating in the game. Unless you have a real reason to shutdown there is always something you can do to help your team. Even with no weapons and 1 leg.

Should they be reported ? No its wastes the time of the support staff who have real problems to deal with.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 27 June 2015 - 01:25 PM.

[Sarlic]

Monkey Lover, on 27 June 2015 - 01:16 PM, said:

They need to remove the kdr stats.

+ revamp reward system.

[Sarlic]

Monkey Lover, on 27 June 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

"Non-Participation Abuse
If a player has joined a match, they must have launched the game with intent to play. Players who are not moving, or are otherwise not participating in the spirit of the game, fall under this category."

He was not moving or participating in the game. Unless you have a real reason to shutdown there is always something you can do to help your team. Even with no weapons and 1 leg.

You want to hear something cool about partipicating?

I was in a D-DC in a ongoing match. I got zombie'd. Both arms etc. lost. I decided to have a little chat with a lance mate and told him to use me as his shield. Walk back and forth. I will shield incoming fire.

Funny that he got a kill shortly before i died as that opppnent as shooting to me and not my lancemate. (Why people shoot on mechs with no weapons etc is just dumb because when other players are alive they should be your priority target. KDR much *smh*.)

This is some serious thinking. Instead of powering down and hide. Bet not many people think of this.

Edited by Sarlic, 27 June 2015 - 01:31 PM.

[Alan Davion]

Monkey Lover, on 27 June 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

"Non-Participation Abuse
If a player has joined a match, they must have launched the game with intent to play. Players who are not moving, or are otherwise not participating in the spirit of the game, fall under this category."

He was not moving or participating in the game. Unless you have a real reason to shutdown there is always something you can do to help your team. Even with no weapons and 1 leg.

Should they be reported ? No its wastes the time of the support staff who have real problems to deal with.

They had been participating in the match, up to that point, that's really all that counts.

So instead of heckling Kyra when there was no violation, why don't you start a campaign to educate the clearly ignorant masses that are wasting the time of the support/moderation team?

[LordNothing]

all this passive aggressive "I'll report you" nonsense is probibly doing more damage than good. pgi has to dedicate resources to answering all those support tickets, resources which could have gone to making the game better instead being wasted because of something as stupid as revealing a player who didnt even show up for a game, or some noob who cant aim getting shot up by the player he tagged. server resources go to audit so called 'problem players', which no doubt increases wait times and lag. if people get permabanned for things that really aren't a big deal then there goes the player base. this is not the way to build a community.

at the end of the day its just a game. if you need to take the time (which you could have used to play a couple more rounds) to formulate the perfect report email to flood pgi's inbox, then you are probibly taking things way too seriously and need to cool down. stop trying to get pgi to ban the people you dont like, they aren't your parents. save reports for actual cheaters and greifers who's sole purpose in life is to make yours miserable, not players who tend to dip into the gray area from time to time but generally just want to play the game.

Edited by LordNothing, 27 June 2015 - 01:36 PM.

[Alan Davion]

LordNothing, on 27 June 2015 - 01:34 PM, said:

all this passive aggressive "I'll report you" nonsense is probibly doing more damage than good. pgi has to dedicate resources to answering all those support tickets, resources which could have gone to making the game better instead being wasted because of something as stupid as revealing a player who didnt even show up for a game, or some noob who cant aim getting shot up by the player he tagged. server resources go to audit so called 'problem players', which no doubt increases wait times and lag. if people get permabanned for things that really aren't a big deal then there goes the player base. this is not the way to build a community.

at the end of the day its just a game. if you need to take the time (which you could have used to play a couple more rounds) to formulate the perfect report email to flood pgi's inbox, then you are probibly taking things way too seriously and need to cool down. stop trying to get pgi to ban the people you dont like, they aren't your parents. save reports for actual cheaters and greifers who's sole purpose in life is to make yours miserable, not players who tend to dip into the gray area from time to time but generally just want to play the game.

The only problem is, how much of the MWO playerbase visit or don't visit the forums here?

Just as a complete, out of left field guess, I'm going to say maybe 10-15% of the player base actually visit the forums, which leaves a staggering 85-90% of the player base that doesn't.

Again, just a complete off the wall number to demonstrate the monumental task before PGI and ourselves.

[Monkey Lover]

Alan Davion, on 27 June 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

They had been participating in the match, up to that point, that's really all that counts.

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Yes he was playing up to when he stopped then it became a problem.

[Alan Davion]

Monkey Lover, on 27 June 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Yes he was playing up to when he stopped then it became a problem.

Wrong again.

If you have participated in the match, from the start, then you have fulfilled the ToS.

If you joined the match and immediately powered down/disconnected or ran out of bounds, then you have violated ToS.

It's really painfully simple.

[Trev Firestorm]

You did nothing wrong, don't listen to ppl who say otherwise.