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[illusive man BR]

When I heard of the new IIC mechs I was excited, so I went to take a look at the designs, however it seems that I've lost some of that interest maybe because they are not new or not as exciting I was expecting them to be, except for the Hunchback IIC, I have the utmost respect for it since the first time I saw it killing my elite pilots with headshots on MechCommander, oh the pain.

Well, so I woke up this morning with this idea to challenge PGI to design new mechs, and I mean new, as in non-canon mechs. Here are my rules:

- Everybody that works at PGI should participate, even the janitor;
- PGI will have 30 days to design the 4 concepts for chassis, one light, one medium, one heavy and an assault, for IS or Clan. I'll leave that to PGI discretion, however PGI must inform us, the community, which one they will choose as soon as the design process begins;
- Those chassis to be designed must follow the gameplay rules from the game MechWarrior Online;
- The progress, who is designing what, and all that kind of information must shared with the community;
- PGI can make a competition between departments, but it's not required.
- Since I don't have access to sales information, I've decided to set the victory condition a goal of 5000 "sales", it doesn't matter if a la carte or the complete pack. A "sale" means an action to support that design, for exemple, assume that PGI delivers 4 chassis designs, one of each weight class, so they will most likely to use their princing model, US$80.00 for IS mechs and US$120.00 for Clan mechs, as well as the a la carte model. No actual money will be involved here, this purchasing action would be qualified as a will to buy that especific chassis or pack. Eventually, PGI can invest some resources to make an actual working model and sell it, but only after the challenge is complete.
- PGI will have until July 30th, 10 AM PDT, to decide if they will participate or not;
- I, illusive_Man_BR, will purchase the Highlander IIC Origins IIC Collection, if PGI agrees to participate on my challenge.

As you can see, I don't really mind if PGI wins or not, I just want them to do something different for a change. I'm curious to see what is PGI's creativity when they are only restrained by their game rules.

If you would like to see this idea grown bigger just reply with I, (name here), support this iniciative. I'm open to feedback, however, I find it irrelevante arguments about canonicity.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

lul, I dunno what you smoking bro, but did you realize, they are making pack 6 months ? and you want NEW for 1 month. The rest of your description is.... well. bollocks.

[FupDup]

I think that non-canon mechs might be interesting if they tried to fill in holes that stock mechs don't fill, but otherwise there's still a crapload of robbits left in BT.

It would help if they would finally ADVANCE THE FREAKING TIMELINE to have access to more of those mechs.

Also, I think it would be okay for them to ignore things like certain mechs not being produced anymore yet still being timeline-friendly. For example, the Toro: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Toro

Edited by FupDup, 01 July 2015 - 07:41 AM.

[Alan Davion]

FupDup, on 01 July 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

I think that non-canon mechs might be interesting if they tried to fill in holes that stock mechs don't fill, but otherwise there's still a crapload of robbits left in BT.

It would help if they would finally ADVANCE THE FREAKING TIMELINE to have access to more of those mechs.

Also, I think it would be okay for them to ignore things like certain mechs not being produced anymore yet still being timeline-friendly. For example, the Toro: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Toro. Who's going to care? The fact that every player in the game can own even a single Battlemech, or even several of them, already breaks the lore (for a lore-friendly game, the majority of players would have to be completely prohibited from having Battlemechs...sounds fun eh? ).

You've got a period at the end of your link there Fup, might want to fix that.

[FupDup]

Alan Davion, on 01 July 2015 - 07:40 AM, said:

You've got a period at the end of your link there Fup, might want to fix that.

Ooops.

[CDLord HHGD]

Non-lore mechs can be cool, but they can also be risky. Granted most of Alex's artwork vastly improves the TRO designs, but he still pays homage. If PGI does this, it has to "look" and "feel" like Battletech/Mechwarrior as established. This isn't Robotech or Gundam Online.

[Paigan]

Don't listen to the Illusive Man.
In the end he just wants to keep all the tech for himself

[El Bandito]

Non-canon mechs? No.

The Bane? YES.

[Raggedyman]

illusive man BR, on 01 July 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

If you would like to see this idea grown bigger just reply with I, (name here), support this iniciative. I'm open to feedback, however, I find it irrelevante arguments about canonicity.

Given how many mechs from Cannon there are that have people actively going "make the X and I'll give you money!", and the number of the people on the forums going "stop making mechs, do feature X so I'll give you money" I'm really not sure what incentive there is for PGI to put the whole of their team onto taking on such an incredibly large gamble (8000+ish working hours, by your behest) given that the only return promised is the $80.00 you have so graciously offered to give them (or rather the profit from an $80.00 sale).

Personally I think you would be more likely to have it happen if you went over to their offices and gave them baggies of whatever the heck it is you are on.

[Johnny Z]

Hey isnt the new Wolverine an in house mech? Also when are sneak peeks coming for the Wolverine hero?????

Only 6 days away and no video or screens or anything!!

Whats it called even?

Edited by Johnny Z, 01 July 2015 - 08:15 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

FupDup, on 01 July 2015 - 07:39 AM, said:

I think that non-canon mechs might be interesting if they tried to fill in holes that stock mechs don't fill, but otherwise there's still a crapload of robbits left in BT.

It would help if they would finally ADVANCE THE FREAKING TIMELINE to have access to more of those mechs.

Also, I think it would be okay for them to ignore things like certain mechs not being produced anymore yet still being timeline-friendly. For example, the Toro: http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Toro

Dude we haven't even had the Clan invasion yet! Why advance the timeline when I haven't even played THIS part of the history yet!?!

Toro is a cool ride!

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 01 July 2015 - 08:16 AM.

[SgtMagor]

A few mechs I would like to see in the near future, there are lots of mechs left to be built.

Blood Kite
Turkina
Devastator
Kodiak
Rampage

[Joseph Mallan]

SgtMagor, on 01 July 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

A few mechs I would like to see in the near future, there are lots of mechs left to be built.

Blood Kite
Turkina
Devastator
Kodiak
Rampage

Cept the Blood Kite is a Home Clan Mech and would not be here. I am a Star Adder as well as a Lyran.

[SkyHammyr]

As much as I would love to see what Alex and Co. can come up with- completely free rein style.
I have to agree that there are still lots of mechs left to explore in the Lore.

[illusive man BR]

Well, I guess I didn't make my point clear. I just want a concept with hardpoints, engine, tonnage and how it would look like. I don't want a fancy concept art, not even a 3D modelling or anything. I just want them to sit on a room, brainstorm for a while and see what comes out of it.

Edited by illusive man BR, 01 July 2015 - 08:39 AM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Why, if all you want is the concept? It's not like they'll come up with something actually NEW you know, since we've got 30 years of people designing customized Mechs in the TT game. Hell I created an IS version of the Piranha before the Clans were introducted by FASA, and I'm sure plenty of other people around the planet playing BTech came up with the same design.

We've got a few thousand Mechs in the canon alone to get through still as well, so...

[Joseph Mallan]

Kristov Kerensky, on 01 July 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:

Why, if all you want is the concept? It's not like they'll come up with something actually NEW you know, since we've got 30 years of people designing customized Mechs in the TT game. Hell I created an IS version of the Piranha before the Clans were introducted by FASA, and I'm sure plenty of other people around the planet playing BTech came up with the same design.

We've got a few thousand Mechs in the canon alone to get through still as well, so...

I was introduced to CBT by a guy who created a home version of the XL Engine and ER PPCs... Of course when 3050 hit the shelves we used FASA's instead.

[Throat Punch]

Joseph Mallan, on 01 July 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

Cept the Blood Kite is a Home Clan Mech and would not be here. I am a Star Adder as well as a Lyran.

But...but...the Blood Kite...must have this shiny

[Raggedyman]

illusive man BR, on 01 July 2015 - 08:38 AM, said:

Well, I guess I didn't make my point clear.

No, you made it quite clear. It's just that it's seriously stupid.

[keith]

El Bandito, on 01 July 2015 - 07:50 AM, said:

Non-canon mechs? No.

The Bane? YES.

u know there are some mektek mechs listed on sarna now after they made up their own. idk y can't pgi make up their own to spice up the BT universe. add in the 1 random mechassult one:P
http://www.sarna.net...i/Gesu_(MekTek)
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mad_Dog_II_(MekTek)
http://www.sarna.net...Tenchi_(MekTek)
http://www.sarna.net...k_(MechAssault)