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[KHAN ATTAKHAN]

Hi, i'm about to head off for a long needed holiday, the desktop is staying at home and the current laptop is no good, what is your opinion on the following to play while away. Alienware 17, I7 processor, NVIDIA GPU, 8gig ram, I will be playing it with mobile internet so it will still suffer lag, I just need to know that the machine can handle playing, also what cooling pad, it will be in the dry hot Australian conditions and the aircon will be flatout so cooling could be an issue, I run all razer gear, adder chroma mouse, firefly chroma mouse pad, blackwidow chroma keyboard, tartarus chroma keypad and chroma 7.1 headset, what are your thoughts?.

[Rathborne]

Keen the hear what laptop/mobile PC will suit this .

Where in Australia are you headed and at what time of the year? As its winter right now the weather is not so bad.

Edit: derp, just read your profile and saw that you're in Australia . Lag might be a problem on the go but either way you'll probably need Telstra to get semi-decent coverage. Know someone who works in WA and NT and only Telstra have acceptable reception.

Edited by Rathborne, 26 June 2015 - 12:27 AM.

[KHAN ATTAKHAN]

We are leaving in the next month, and the trip will take 2 years, around Australia is 26,000klm's then each state east to west and then north to south, taking in almost every highlight and beautiful places we have here, all up around 100,000klm's, yep it is winter here but only in the south, up north they still get warm to hot weather, the plan is to spend winter up north and summer down south, summer here can get to 105 degrees far., sometimes hotter, did it once years ago and want to do it again before we're too old to enjoy it.

[Rathborne]

Sounds like a great trip! I haven't seen much beyond the coast of NSW myself.

Still very keen for what people deem is a good mobile rig.

I'd thought of putting together a mobile LAN rig in one of these:
http://www.pccasegea...oducts_id=30036

Can easily get an i5/8GB/ITX-GTX970 in there .


edit: or go for an AMD A10 7850K APU build if you wanted to go something cheaper.

Spoiler

Edited by Rathborne, 26 June 2015 - 01:40 AM.

[DSA frozoon]

Hey man, I normally play MWO on a laptop, running medium settings at a good 40-60 frames. I dont have an Alienware, nor do I think they are necessary as I think they are just a little too bulky for a trip like that. My laptop has a GTX 660m in it, along with an i7 and 8gb and runs MWO perfectly fine. Its an MSI GE60 btw, although all of their laptops seem to be good, mine was quite cheap ($1800 NZD - ~$1200 USD)

[Catamount]

ATTAKHAN666, on 26 June 2015 - 12:14 AM, said:

Hi, i'm about to head off for a long needed holiday, the desktop is staying at home and the current laptop is no good, what is your opinion on the following to play while away. Alienware 17, I7 processor, NVIDIA GPU, 8gig ram, I will be playing it with mobile internet so it will still suffer lag, I just need to know that the machine can handle playing, also what cooling pad, it will be in the dry hot Australian conditions and the aircon will be flatout so cooling could be an issue, I run all razer gear, adder chroma mouse, firefly chroma mouse pad, blackwidow chroma keyboard, tartarus chroma keypad and chroma 7.1 headset, what are your thoughts?.

I'm not clear on that last part. Are you asking if the Razer gear is a good set of stuff? Or whether it will somehow interact differently with something you buy than, say, a G910 and a XyperX Cloud II would?

In any case, shoot us a both a preferred and stretch budget, and we'll give you some options for comparison. The Alienware 17 is probably not anywhere close to your best bet for getting the performance you want, don't know about their cooling situation, and we also don't really know what you're looking to put in there (eg which Nvidia GPU?).

Edited by Catamount, 26 June 2015 - 02:25 AM.

[johnyboy420]

http://www.ncix.com/...gb-eb-96306.htm

the old one with the 7970m and a APU waz beast but i can't find this one in the benches but id say this one prob still a 1350 buck king

Edited by johnyboy420, 26 June 2015 - 02:42 AM.

[KHAN ATTAKHAN]

Yeah sorry the razer gear is what i'm running now and want to take with me, the current lappy is an I7 with 8gig of ram and gtx660 card, it's a dell 17r special edition, run like a beast till you press on mwo then it shuts-down from over heating in less than a minute, crisis 3 on full graphics runs fantastic, gta 5, diablo 3 anything, any game runs on high graphics and the lappy just loves it, NOT MWO, even at the lowest settings with crappy mouse and nothing else attached it just over-heats and shuts down, longest I had it running was 73 seconds, oh yeah that was in the mech bay, I have never yet got it to play a game. I should add the budget runs to $2500 - $3500. I do have the option of a alienware X51, the smaller of the alienware desktops to take, they can handle the game quite well.

Edited by ATTAKHAN666, 26 June 2015 - 02:56 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Sager

http://www.sagernote...k-NP9773-S.html

They will customize, into a 4790K and a 980M come with very good cooling - But get a good cooling pad too.
They do ship from the US to AUS but that's rather pricey $350

I don't know any local AUS retailers to see if they are available closer to home.

[johnyboy420]

Dell is junk so is alienware same dam junk anything but MSI so far is junk besides sager IE the 5000 dallor labtop

MSI has a 100% fan speed button no heat issues

Edited by johnyboy420, 26 June 2015 - 03:34 AM.

[KHAN ATTAKHAN]

Well, just looked at he Sager, nom nom nom nom , the order will be placed, unfortunately Silvial who is my son just saw it, now he wants one, so I'll go the 17inch at $1999 and get 2, thanks guys, see you all on the battlefield.

[BSK]

We have had a member trying mobile internet for games. He did 20 damage ..

[xWiredx]

Get a Sager off XoticPC and remember to add both the copper cooling add-on and the IC Diamond thermal compound, then top it off with a Cooler Master X3 or something similar cooling pad-wise. You will definitely want an Intel Core i7 and a Maxwell-based mobile GPU (GTX 960M or 970M probably would be best). Also, he larger the screen, the larger the chassis, which means more room for air flow generally-speaking.

[Lord Letto]

http://www.xoticpc.c...zmg-p-8299.html
mmm, i7-4790k (z97), gtx 980m, don't forget to double the RAM for dual channel and add a OS
with 4790k, 980m, IC Diamond thermal compound (CPU & GPU), 16gb (2x8gb) 1600mhz RAM, full size notebook cooler with large 200mm blue led fan & windows 8.1 64 bit+office 2013 trial=$2353
$2353 USD=$3077.63 AUD (according to google) + shipping
(never noticed copper cooling or cooler master x3 listed)

same one DV listed minus kingston HyperX 1866mhz cas 11 RAM & 250gb samsung m.2 Ssd (with that RAM & SSD, Total=$2533 usd/$3310.98 aud+shipping)

Edited by Lord Letto, 26 June 2015 - 06:04 AM.

[xWiredx]

Lord Letto, on 26 June 2015 - 05:33 AM, said:

http://www.xoticpc.c...zmg-p-8299.html
mmm, i7-4790k (z97), gtx 980m, don't forget to double the RAM for dual channel and add a OS
with 4790k, 980m, IC Diamond thermal compound (CPU & GPU), 16gb (2x8gb) 1600mhz RAM, full size notebook cooler with large 200mm blue led fan & windows 8.1 64 bit+office 2013 trial=$2353
$2353 USD=$3077.63 AUD (according to google) + shipping
(never noticed copper cooling or cooler master x3 listed)

same one DV listed minus kingston HyperX 1866mhz cas 11 RAM & 250gb samsung m.2 Ssd (with that RAM & SSD, Total=$2533 usd/$3310.98 aud+shipping)

For laptops that allow it, there's a separate 'cooper cooling upgrade' section in the configuration list. I'd recommend against top-tier chips that run all-out when heat is a concern. The Cooler Master X3 cooler is one of the better ones out there, XoticPC does not sell them as accessories if I remember correctly.

I'd also recommend staying away from spinning drives (I realize you didn't recommend one anyway). Stick with SSDs to reduce heat/energy use.

Pretty sure a decent system can be built for $1800 US or less.

[Lord Letto]

For Under $1800, Here's one with a Brand New Broadwell CPU (i7-5700HQ):
http://www.xoticpc.c...082-p-8281.html

With IC Diamond & Copper Cooling Upgrade, 1TB 7200RPM HDD Replaced with a 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD and Bloatware Removal, would be $1577 US/$2060.04 AUD

[rulnam]

Hey Attakhan,

i think your mislead at one point: your razr gear will not affect performance in any way nor would cheap gear. It may feel and handle better though.

Not trying to stop you from spending your money, but your laptop should run MWO more than just fine. Just try having a clean setup (e.g. reinstall Windows, newest drivers etc.) and clean up air ventilation to prevent it from overheating. Costs you nothing and should be worth a try!

Have a great holiday!

[LT. HARDCASE]

xWiredx, on 26 June 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:

For laptops that allow it, there's a separate 'cooper cooling upgrade' section in the configuration list. I'd recommend against top-tier chips that run all-out when heat is a concern. The Cooler Master X3 cooler is one of the better ones out there, XoticPC does not sell them as accessories if I remember correctly.

I'd also recommend staying away from spinning drives (I realize you didn't recommend one anyway). Stick with SSDs to reduce heat/energy use.

Pretty sure a decent system can be built for $1800 US or less.

The copper upgrade is a scam. Please don't recommend people such a sick waste of money.

I've personally tested the copper shims, and they are a 2C difference, at best.

[xWiredx]

When heat is the major factor affecting your performance, you'll take every bit you can get. Laptops already have limited cooling abilities. We're not talking about a desktop here, there is no ability to just put in better fans, clean up cable routing, add water cooling, etc. Between the copper and IC Diamond, OP is probably looking at 3-5c difference at best. Since the CPU and GPU will almost definitely reach their throttle temps, this gives OP that extra little bit of headroom.

You know what else has been tested to only give a 2-4c difference in cooling? Cooling pads. The best case scenario is the cooling pad can blow directly into a port in one spot close to the hot spots inside the laptop case and a second fan can help pull out hot air toward the exhaust port of the laptop case. Since laptops and coolers are not designed together, and none of them are designed with some sort of standard to optimize cooling, these are just as near placebo effect as the copper cooling upgrades.