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[Mcgral18]

Wintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

Know anything about its hard points?

3E 1B 2M (or 3?M) was what Russ said in the townhall, and 9E for the Thud.

[TercieI]

Mcgral18, on 04 July 2015 - 11:23 AM, said:

3E 1B 2M (or 3?M) was what Russ said in the townhall, and 9E for the Thud.

Rubbish and borderline in all likelihood.

(But they both look cool)

Edited by Terciel1976, 04 July 2015 - 11:27 AM.

[Wintersdark]

Terciel1976, on 04 July 2015 - 11:21 AM, said:

I believe it has 1B and 2-3E in the arm and missiles in the torso per the Town Hall.

so it's basically a (ignoring quirks) slight upgrade to the 6R? I can live with that.

[MechaBattler]

I don't think you put enough lasers in that Thunderbolt.

[DAYLEET]

Ill agree, TopDog is a very boring name, it seems to match the pattern/camo(BORING).

Hero mech are about 3 things, how cool they look, a different and interesting loadout, a great name/history.

9 energy point aint bad, considering all the Thud variant had diverse and interesting hardpoint(that no one use because hard), the 9nrg makes sense.

Edited by DAYLEET, 04 July 2015 - 12:54 PM.

[TheCharlatan]

My only problem with the heroes is that the camos don't look very intresting.
They both look unimaginative.

The Wolverine has basically the same "quarantine" camo of the special variant urbie. Are they supposed to be related?
The Top Dog (what kind of name is that anyway?) has the same "mech with pants" style of the Grid Iron.
I love all my heroes because they look unique.
These two might be strong on the battlefield or not, but don't look particularly cool IMO.

Edit: new River City looks super cool, though, and... OMG destructible stuff and collision effects! Finally!

Edited by TheCharlatan, 04 July 2015 - 01:03 PM.

[TercieI]

Wintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 12:07 PM, said:

so it's basically a (ignoring quirks) slight upgrade to the 6R? I can live with that.

Feels like an awkward compromise between the 6K and 6R to me.

[Wintersdark]

Terciel1976, on 04 July 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

Feels like an awkward compromise between the 6K and 6R to me.

not really. The 6R, Dual ac5 quirk milking aside, isn't really able to capitalize on its second ballistic hard point. This maintains the missile racks, and trades that useless ballistic hard point for much more usable energy hard points.

More flexible build options as a result.

With that said, quirks are a thing, and I can't see this supplanting either quirked Wolverine.

[TercieI]

Wintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 03:19 PM, said:

not really. The 6R, Dual ac5 quirk milking aside, isn't really able to capitalize on its second ballistic hard point. This maintains the missile racks, and trades that useless ballistic hard point for much more usable energy hard points.

More flexible build options as a result.

With that said, quirks are a thing, and I can't see this supplanting either quirked Wolverine.

That's kindof my point. Absent quirks, the 6R is rubbish. Bluntly, a single ballistic that's not a gauss or 20 is pretty underwhelming. Two quirked 5s makes the 6R work. This is just going to be a kitchen sink mech and not really great at anything unless there's some surprise in the quirks.

[Wintersdark]

Terciel1976, on 04 July 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

That's kindof my point. Absent quirks, the 6R is rubbish. Bluntly, a single ballistic that's not a gauss or 20 is pretty underwhelming. Two quirked 5s makes the 6R work. This is just going to be a kitchen sink mech and not really great at anything unless there's some surprise in the quirks.

and this is why I hate quirks more and more all the time.

[IraqiWalker]

Juodas Varnas, on 04 July 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

Top Dog? Wasn't it supposed to be TallMan?

IKR? I thought I was going crazy when I saw the hardpoints, and thinking "That's Tallman. Why are they calling it TopDog?"

So PGI, Why in Victor Steiner-Davion's name did you change the name of this hero mech?

Wintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 09:37 PM, said:

and this is why I hate quirks more and more all the time.

For me, it's why I hate weapon over-quirks. Quirks are awesome. It's when weapon specific ones are overdone to an extreme degree.

MechaBattler, on 04 July 2015 - 12:28 PM, said:

I don't think you put enough lasers in that Thunderbolt.

They stuck to the letter with the canon build on this one Tallman

Edited by IraqiWalker, 04 July 2015 - 11:59 PM.

[Juodas Varnas]

IraqiWalker, on 04 July 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

So PGI, Why in Victor Steiner-Davion's name did you change the name of this hero mech?

Steiner-Davion?
Wasn't Tallman part of the Draconis Combine?

[IraqiWalker]

Juodas Varnas, on 04 July 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Steiner-Davion?
Wasn't Tallman part of the Draconis Combine?

I know, but I'm Davion. If I am angry, I use the name of my liege lord. XD

Edited by IraqiWalker, 05 July 2015 - 12:29 AM.

[TercieI]

Wintersdark, on 04 July 2015 - 09:37 PM, said:

and this is why I hate quirks more and more all the time.

For the record, I don't really disagree with that.

[RavensScar]

Regarding the TBolt, so far they've avoided actually using character names for the hero names - if we were sticking to canon, Protector should just be ON1-K Kerensky. As someone pointed out above, the TDR-5S Tallman is also named after it's pilot.

That being said, Top Dog is a pretty unimaginative name.

[C E Dwyer]

Well the Wolverine camo and build doesn't look so bad, but OMG the Thud not only is it an utterly dull build in that you can have lasers or lasers with your spam, but it looks like someone was sick over it while eating a boiled sweet

[Malleus011]

Both of the new heroes have ugly default paint schemes and underwhelming names. At least the Tallmann is canon. Pity we didn't get Salome Ward's Wolverine.

[IraqiWalker]

Malleus011, on 05 July 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Both of the new heroes have ugly default paint schemes and underwhelming names. At least the Tallmann is canon. Pity we didn't get Salome Ward's Wolverine.

Do we have any specs for Salome's Wolverine?

[Odanan]

IraqiWalker, on 04 July 2015 - 11:57 PM, said:

IKR? I thought I was going crazy when I saw the hardpoints, and thinking "That's Tallman. Why are they calling it TopDog?"

Maybe because Tallman is the surname of the pilot (Mary Tallman), not exactly the name of the mech.

RavensScar, on 05 July 2015 - 07:32 AM, said:

Regarding the TBolt, so far they've avoided actually using character names for the hero names - if we were sticking to canon, Protector should just be ON1-K Kerensky. As someone pointed out above, the TDR-5S Tallman is also named after it's pilot.

This. ^

Juodas Varnas, on 04 July 2015 - 11:58 PM, said:

Wasn't Tallman part of the Draconis Combine?

No, the Bremond Draconis March Militia is actually from the Federated Suns (Davion), the same for the Capellan March.
Yeah, that's confusing (blame the Fedrats).

[IraqiWalker]

Odanan, on 06 July 2015 - 04:04 AM, said:

No, the Bremond Draconis March Militia is actually from the Federated Suns (Davion), the same for the Capellan March.
Yeah, that's confusing (blame the Fedrats).

WE ADMIT NO WRONGDOING!