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[Vulpesveritas]

SATA III is fully compatible with SATA II: there's no reason to upgrade or go with anything but a SATA III drive if one is better.
And the one that's in stock is the modular version.

[NeoThoR]

Vulpesveritas, on 06 July 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

SATA III is fully compatible with SATA II: there's no reason to upgrade or go with anything but a SATA III drive if one is better.
And the one that's in stock is the modular version.

What's modular.. and whats the other one? lol please explain.

Also, from what I read SSD seem to fail a lot.. and like I said my mobo does not support SATA III so why go with it? It's really just wasted speed. AMIRITE? lol

[Vulpesveritas]

SSDs are generally fine, so long as you don't get a poor brand... like OCZ. Generally for an average user, they will last far beyond the life of the PC, so long as you don't get a bad drive. Crucial and Samsung drives are the most stable.
And why go SATA III? A: you can put it in your next comptuer, B: SATA II is capable of 3,000 mb/s speeds, yet the fastest SATA III SSD is only about 550mb/s, C: It's still compatible, D: Sales.

The more expensive PSU is the modular version.

[NeoThoR]

Well I just order this

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817182262

Got tired of waiting for the non modular. I almost went with the Platinum version.. but I didn't see a reason to spend $14 more.. although it did have 2 more years worth of warranty.

Next is..

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127682

and PROBABLY this.. I'm having a hard time deciding on a SSD HDD

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147163

Is there some kind of adapter for the SSD drivers? THey looks smaller than normal HDD's.. how do they fit inside the bays? I can't find any kind of adapter or whatever you want to call it

Edited by NeoThoR, 07 July 2012 - 09:34 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

You're looking for a 2.5" to 3.5" drive adapter - the SSDs are the same size as a laptop HDD.
Also, the Platinum rosewill fortresses are not very good reliability wise. Sure they're efficient, but their OEM isn't a good brand like the Superflower inside the Gold Capstone, partly hence the shorter warranty.
Why they didn't go with Superflower for platinum is beyond me when Kingwin does at a little over $100.

And I highly recommend that Samsung SSD by the way. If you get the one with the "desktop kit" it will come with the 3.5 bay adapter in the package.

GPU wise, nice sale.

[Madekatsu]

NeoThoR, on 07 July 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147163

Is there some kind of adapter for the SSD drivers? THey looks smaller than normal HDD's.. how do they fit inside the bays? I can't find any kind of adapter or whatever you want to call it

Vulpesveritas, on 07 July 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

And I highly recommend that Samsung SSD by the way. If you get the one with the "desktop kit" it will come with the 3.5 bay adapter in the package.

GPU wise, nice sale.

I was actually at one of our local computer supply shops today talking to owner and he brought out one of the new Samsung 830 SSD units (brought on by my question of which was selling better in the 128GB size, the Samsung or the Crucial M4). They're incredibly well made (Samsung has really stepped up their game across all markets), have the brushed finish, and the desktop kit comes with SATA power & data cables in addition to the 3.5" bracket adapter. He also said that they were very fast; faster than the M4 and many others that he's worked with. I don't know how truthful that last statement is, but I was certainly impressed by the build quality nonetheless.

[Vulpesveritas]

Last review I saw had the Samsung 830 as being faster than sandforce drives in everything but 4k read, and comparable there. Also, they are more reliable than Sandforce or Marvel controllers by what I've seen, so yeah.

I'd source this but I'm running off my phone tonight. lol

Edited by Vulpesveritas, 07 July 2012 - 10:14 PM.

[LordDread]

to answer the gfx question... l2 google.. 2 seconds ..

http://www.geforce.c.../specifications

Min system power, 550 watts, and if its an OC version of a card, then its safe to assume slightly more power ..

[NeoThoR]

LordDread, on 07 July 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

to answer the gfx question... l2 google.. 2 seconds ..

http://www.geforce.c.../specifications

Min system power, 550 watts, and if its an OC version of a card, then its safe to assume slightly more power ..

Yea I actually looked it up afterwards and found that page..

From what the guys on here are telling me the 550w PSU i bought will actually do more than 550w? Idk.. I don't understand it lol
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[LordDread]

actualy most psu will do slightly under their rating, usually they are rated as MAX , there are the higher end ones that are rated at 100% stated, for 100% uptime, but you pay for what u get, its reasonable to expect maybe 525 watts from a 550 all day everyday for an average run of the mill unit.But yes it can be very confusing, theres minimum spec they have to meet to be able to claim certain things, however theres lots of grey area they can play in, e.g. they might have tested that 550 watt in a room temp of 10c (50f) which will give u a very differnt reading when done at 30c (86f). thats one example that the lower end psu's use to "cheat" the numbers

[NeoThoR]

So I got my PSU in the mail today. Next is the GPU and then SSD.

This new PSU is FREAKIN QUIET and is so much more cleaner looking. Module is the way to go.. I'm glad I spent the extra $20.. no wires hanging around being unused.

[NeoThoR]

Isn't it BEAUTIFUL!? Came in the mail today.. now all I need is an SSD drive. But, I do believe I'll wait for the SSD.

[NeoThoR]

Just ordered http://www.amazon.co...ils_o00_s00_i00

And it only cost me $114

[Ragenule]

Ah. While it is technically a matter of preference, I was gonna warn you to try and look for a single rail PSU, more so if you plan on overclocking.

While it isn't bad if it is dual/triple/quad-rail and you OC your equipment, but you'd have to take the extra steps to figure out what lines belong to what rails, and balance them if you have alot of components connected. Which you'd have to do even out of overclocking, if you had alot of things powered up. Otherwise, the PSU may switch off to protect itself and prevent fires in high load,

If you are a fan of multi-rail PSUs, the cheap guys have a nasty habit of running with half-arsed dual rail setups, as they eventually share a key piece of hardware where higher quality PSUs give each rail their own (Can't remember what it is ATM, get back to me on that), basically 'faking' the dual rail, hence the bad rep.