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[stjobe]

COM-1B: RA LL, LA LL - COM-1D: RA LL, CT SRM-6 - COM-2D: RA 2xSRM-2, CT SRM-4, LA ML - COM-3A: RA ML+SRM-4, CT SRM-6, LA ML - COM-TDK RA 2xML, LA 2xML

Where to begin...

Well, first off, I think is the fact that there is a single Commando variant, the COM-TDK, that even has more than one energy hardpoint in the left arm, yet all five variants got the Black Box of Unimaginative Art treatment for both their left and right arm, no matter if they mount one or two energy weapons.

The second is that SRM-2 doesn't even have their own model; look at the COM-2D in the middle there, it has two SRM-2s on the left arm. But what is that geometry? It's a freaking LRM-5 with three tubes plugged!

Third, that Black Box of Unimaginative Art really kills the look of the 'mech. Kills it dead.
Why did you have to do it that way when you could have done it the way you did it on e.g. the Panther, where every weapon is its own little box? Why do all the single-hardpoint arms get a two-hardpoint box?

I am so very, very disappointed.

I expected to be, but it still hurts.

Edit: Seriously, they haven't even bothered to model the different launchers.

This is a COM-2D with 2xSRM-2 and a single ML. Notice how the second SRM-2 is just a LRM-5 with three of the tubes plugged:



And if you put a SRM-6 in that second slot it becomes not one but TWO LRM-5s, each with two plugged tubes:



Okay, but what about a single SRM-4 then? Nope, you get a SRM-6 with two plugged tubes:



Fine, but a single LRM-5 then? Nope, not on the first hard point. Then you get a SRM-6 with a plugged tube, and you'll like it:



So it looks like the firs slot has two models, a SRM-2 and a SRM-6, and these just combine to make up all the different SRM and LRM launchers by plugging tubes. The second slot has a single model, a LRM-5, which is used for every type of SRM and LRM launcher.

That's just about the laziest implementation of anything I've ever seen in MWO, and that's saying something...

Edited by stjobe, 12 July 2015 - 10:23 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

First the Centy, now your precious CMD.

I think Russ is out to get you.

[ProfessorD]

It is a shame that this is how they handle dynamic weapon models. Your set of images show off that the Commando should actually be a great looking little mech.

Maybe someone on the PGI staff is super OCD about symmetry or standardization? That still doesn't justify those right arm missile pods, though, which look stupid regardless of the tube count.

[Summon3r]

finally we are getting somewhere with scaling of weapons... or should i say non-scaling, ppc's should look massively menacing on them little guys

[stjobe]

Summon3r, on 07 July 2015 - 10:43 AM, said:

finally we are getting somewhere with scaling of weapons... or should i say non-scaling, ppc's should look massively menacing on them little guys

If you find a PPC on one of the Commandos in the OP, you should check your meds. Or your eyesight.

Edit: I LIKE BIG GUNS, I wouldn't mind a bit if the LLs were larger than MLs that were larger than SLs, but they're the exact same size.

I wouldn't mind mounting a humungous PPC on one of those arms - if it didn't come in the default dual-hardpoint black box and was actually centered on the arm.

Edited by stjobe, 07 July 2015 - 10:48 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

I haven't seen the New geometry yet. But if you are upset I'm not looking forward to the view Jobe!

[Tennex]

Looks fine to me man

[Juodas Varnas]

ProfessorD, on 07 July 2015 - 10:42 AM, said:

Maybe someone on the PGI staff is super OCD about symmetry or standardization? That still doesn't justify those right arm missile pods, though, which look stupid regardless of the tube count.

*SYMMETRY*

2x SRM4s

Tennex, on 07 July 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

Looks fine to me man

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 01 January 2016 - 11:22 AM.

[Vandul]

Catapult hands you a semi-dry crying towel.

[Tennex]

More importantly they are goign back and turning all the special geometry black. Shield and fins

[Sereglach]

Right with you, 100%. Commandos were my first mech, and it breaks my heart to see their treatment. The Death's Knell is the only one tolerable, but that's because, as you said, it actually has two hardpoints in each arm to fill the huge energy box of typical pointlessness.

They should have pulled from the Kintaro for the arms, and the Panther for the Torso, for how to make the Commando look. Instead it got the really fugly crap that it has now. It doesn't even make any sense.

I mean, what is that crap in the CT of the Commando? Popeye's curly-cue chest hair? It doesn't even mesh with the mech geometry; and it sticks out like a lego brick got tacked onto it. At least the Panther's missile hardpoints mesh into the torso and look reasonably flush with the mech.

Then the arms. I don't even know where to start with this. The missile hardpoints look like someone wanted to go full-on-Koshi(Mist Lynx) with clan-like geometry, but was then forced to hack off the outside pieces for little piece-of-crap "missile bracelets" to shove onto the mech. Where are the missile boxes? They could have used scaled down versions of the units from the Kintaro Arms and made excellent hardpoints for the Commando, with actual unique tube counts. It would have even meshed will with the chassis and looked right.

Now I wonder if my Commandos will ever leave the garage again. I'm glad I got some play-time in with them yesterday, for nostalgia's sake.

[Summon3r]

stjobe, on 07 July 2015 - 10:46 AM, said:

If you find a PPC on one of the Commandos in the OP, you should check your meds. Or your eyesight.

Edit: I LIKE BIG GUNS, I wouldn't mind a bit if the LLs were larger than MLs that were larger than SLs, but they're the exact same size.

I wouldn't mind mounting a humungous PPC on one of those arms - if it didn't come in the default dual-hardpoint black box and was actually centered on the arm.

no but in another thread there is, point is cause the mech is small doesnt mean weapons should magically shrink ..... "honey i shrunk the 31st century weaponry?"

[Thunder Lips Express]

I think they look pretty cool. But I don't pilot them and never really have so I don't have an attachment to them. But that pic you posted I liked. But you should see my friends... I have bad taste

[Alan Davion]

Why the Commando's lasers or PPCs couldn't get the sort of treatment the Shadow Hawk has for its arm weapons is beyond me.

I just had the displeasure of looking through all the Commando's in game and those boxes are seriously the most fugly thing I've seen yet in this game.

[ShadowWolf Kell]

TLDR

[stjobe]

Vandul, on 07 July 2015 - 10:47 AM, said:

Catapult hands you a semi-dry crying towel.

Thank you Catapult, I've supported your plight ever since you got those tack-on launchers; little did I think I'd be right there with you one day.

Your friend in misery,
Commando

[Damien Tokala]

Real pilots don't use commandos

[Juodas Varnas]

Damien Tokala, on 07 July 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

Real pilots don't use commandos

P.S. It's from a movie "Commando"

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 07 July 2015 - 12:06 PM.

[stjobe]

Damien Tokala, on 07 July 2015 - 12:04 PM, said:

Real pilots don't use commandos

Au contraire, my misguided friend, au contraire.

It is a poor warrior that blames his weapons.

[DaZur]

Meh... I think it looks... "Cute".