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[Exmortis]

Looking at this (admittedly very old) post describing ECM functionality, http://mwomercs.com/...dian-ecm-suite/

one section reads,

"When your Mech is disrupted by an enemy ECM, your Beagle Active Probe ceases to function."

It's my understanding that the BAP cancels 1 enemy ECM when within 360m of the enemy mech on which it is equipped. This is taken from various MWO wikis, all of which were created more recently than the above quote. But that raises some questions.

Namely, if the above paragraph is true:

• Does the BAP cancel the ECM between 360m and 181m, at which point it's then overtaken/canceled by the ECM's 180m protective radius? Or does the BAP always cancel ECM regardless of proximity under 360m?
  
  • What about when that ECM is in Counter mode? Does it affect/cancel the BAP within 180, or does the BAP still win? Are they mutually canceled?

Because of the general confusion which seems to surround these components, I humbly ask that you do not respond if you're uncertain or guessing. I only say that because there's a lot of conflicting information on the forums and elsewhere concerning which component "wins" and under what conditions, and we'd just be adding to it here. Which raises one final, probably most important point for PGI:


It would help new and veteran players immensely if there was an official, authoritative and accurate wiki which contained information on your game features and systems, updated as patches change the game content. As is, we're searching through forums and reading suppositions and outdated/conflicting info, mixed with opinion. Most of the time, people just want to know how a system works, and don't care at that very moment about how everyone else thinks it should work.

Thanks in advance for any info!

Edited by Exmortis, 07 July 2015 - 03:36 PM.

[Spike Brave]

I'll answer as best I can. I'm not sure about the range of the active probe's ECM cancel, but I believe it to be 180 meters. I know that it always cancels one enemy ECM in jam mode within it's range. I have been fighting ECM mechs at less than 50 meters and my probe counters the ECM, so it's always so long as they are within your probes range. AP does not affect an ECM in counter mode. An enemy mech in counter mode can be targeted normally without an active probe and it's ECM will cancel an enemy ECM normally. The ECM counter is one for one. So one ECM in counter stops one enemy ECM is jam.

If you're interested in Patch notes go here: http://mwomercs.com/...-notes-archive/ . They are all there and some even have FAQ.

As far as the wiki, it won't be need after the UI passes. If want to know what a piece of equipment does, just mouse over it in the MechLab. Doing this presents you with a pullout with detailed info. Some are imcomplete, but they've been updating them each patch. If you see something that's incorrect or incomplete open a ticket so they know there is an issue.

[Rogue Jedi]

BAP (or cAP) counters 1 ECM provided you are within range (pretty sure it is 240m), unless you yourself are carrying ECM in which case the BAPs counter ECM function does not work.

[Thorqemada]

BAP allways cancels 1 enemy ECM in its range (i guess that is 180m or 200m in that region - there were to many changes in the past).

BAP will all its sensor stuff have work as long there is no or only 1 enemy ECM in the vicinity and the target is also unaffected by its friendly Team ECM that may be out of range from you.

2 Enemy ECM cancel 1 BAP-ECCM if both are in your range.

Enemy ECCM does nothing to your BAP.

Friendly ECCM from another Mech will add up with you BAP-ECCM and cancel an equal number of enemy ECM in range.

In Mechs that carry BAP + ECM the same time the BAP will not provide ECCM and only work as Sensor Probe - ECM and ECCM in the same Mech are exclusive to each other but if your ECM gets destroyed BAP should provide ECCM again.

The Key-Command-Switch for changing the modes (ECM - ECCM) of the ECM Module is "J" and BAP only offers ECCM.

That is the momentary BAP situation afaik.

Edited by Thorqemada, 08 July 2015 - 05:12 AM.

[TheCaptainJZ]

Bap cancels one enemy ecm. For IS its the closest one. For Clan, it's whichever enemy mech you have TARGETED which has ecm. So the clan active probe is worse. The range is not 360 m. It was reduced to 240m. Not sure if the cap is the same. These are the IS numbers.