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[Idealsuspect]

TWIAFU, on 11 July 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:

We have 160-180+ defenders right now on a Saturday afternoon, 4.30pm est, dealing on 3 fronts.

So, by your logic, CW is half dead and when prime time hits and numbers go up then CW is less dead.

Yea! less dead CW in prime time when more people are online playing!

150 when i wrote my message 160 when you wrote yours ... and ?
Its saturday yes the day with most of players ofr the week.

And thoses players 150 - 180 whatever they ARENT ALL DAVIONS .... yep only 3 planets defended by 150 even 200 players but they aren's all davion in fact my last match we were only 2 from davion ... 4 from kurita some from others factions yep

In fact i am not sure CW is populated by 1000 unique players right now ... no no

I am pretty sure that port moseby and buckminster are shared in all IS factions and also 100 davion's players queuing in this 2 planets are shared in all IS factions too.

CW is more than half dead for sure.
But maybe saturday night on NA timezone peak you will reach 1000 players
1000 players it's really nothing for a false MMO like ...

Edit : more than half dead.. like this topic

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Edited by Idealsuspect, 11 July 2015 - 01:40 PM.

[WANTED]

I found it frightenly dead in CW last night when I played. I think it has to do a lot with the new map of River City. Also Davion TS is on a backup server and I hardly see many on lately since that might be an issue. Otherwise we were stomping clans in the pug CW drops earlier in the week. CWI showed up last night though and ended our game so quick I believe a regular pug game would have lasted longer, also we got 0 kills...ouch. Note this was a pug group in CW against their 12 man. I'm still into CW though, not running me off.

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Joseph Mallan, on 11 July 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Yes his clear over all point is players, that are not as good as they think they are, want the Nightmare mode made easier to play. I have addressed this a few times already. The mode is to hard for me So I won't play unless its made easier for me to win. Not a fan of that line of logic.

No, he is saying that IF CW player want to encourage non-CW players to play in CW, then things need to change to encourage that.

I'm good enough to play it. I have played it successfully with my unit. And I STILL didn't enjoy it. The play style doesn't fit me. The tactics (Only seems to be a handful at best) don't fit me.

You want me to come play it? Why should I?

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Wildstreak, on 10 July 2015 - 04:13 PM, said:

CW was so much fun for the week I played, I left to watch this on infinite loop. Never came back.

LMFAO

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Fenrisulvyn, on 11 July 2015 - 06:25 AM, said:

"some (who will remain unnamed) teams attitudes make pugs never want anything to do with organized play if it means playing with people like that either for or against. if this is someones first experience in CW i totally understand why they would wash their hands of the whole thing when being told "GG" by the reds after a 48-5 spawncamping fest. IE some teams have no one but themselves to blame for a lack of interested players."

Yup. The normal path of Elite players is to eventually learn the concept of occupying barren terrain. You get so good, no one wants to challenge your team. And the problem is compounded if you behave like jackasses about it. Truly elite players and teams already know this, usually from learning the hard way - "why won't anyone challenge us?". They make adjustments to keep the game interesting, maybe they even field their 2nd string so their wins are closer games. Or maybe they handicap their 1st string with stock mechs or whatever to "keep it interesting".

The "elite" players that haven't figured this out yet aren't as "hardcore" as they thought.

i did emphise that it is only some teams that are bad apples most that i meet are good sports and enjoyable to play with.

attacking eachother doesnt do anything productive. my main point was that CW lacks the depth and incentives to attract a larger player base. maybe its just not finished yet and i accept that but to those that get angry at pugs for not organizing or refusing to play CW just take a chill pill CW is still in beta and to some of us its just "not quite there yet".

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TWIAFU, on 10 July 2015 - 02:58 AM, said:

And just think how wonderful CW would be if these anti-group solo rambos would actually participate in the core mechanic of CW, grouping/unit play.

Just think how wonderful CW would be i these anti-group solo rambos used the tools they asked for time and again.

No, instead of using what they asked for or participating in core mechanics, everything must change to suit them even though they have an area designed specifically for solo players. They do not want the tools they asked for, they do not want to participate, they do not want to do even the minimal amount of effort to take control of own gameplay. Instead, they want PGI to change everything to suit them. They want the rewards from CW play without participating in CW, just be honest. CW has to change to cater to solo play so they can get the rewards. They do not want to work as a team. They do not want to group. They want the reward for just showing up and not having to take part.

I want a place where teamwork and grouping is central to the experience. That place is CW. You want a solo playground. That is the solo queue. Not asking to take my group into your solo playground and ruin your experience, so don't ruin mine.

I'm just curious ...

What did these "anti-group solo rambos" ask for?

Did they ask for CW? Unlikely since they don't play it.
Did they ask for VOIP? Unlikely since most still don't use it.
Do they want the "rewards" from CW? No ... most could not care less.

The OP was asking why there aren't more people in CW ... its because it does not appeal to a large fraction of the player base ... either due to time requirements, game mode, teamwork requirements or other factors. So what do these "anti-group solo rambos" DO? They don't play CW and that is all.

Someone asked what to do to get more players into CW ... there are only two ways to do that ... either expand the player base substantially or add features to CW that will appeal to a larger fraction of the player base. If folks don't want more players in CW ... that's fine ... leave it the way it is but if the population is low it will probably not improve much.

However, the bottom line is that "anti-group solo rambos" could care less about CW and are probably unlikely to ever play it.

[Wildstreak]

kamiko kross, on 10 July 2015 - 08:44 PM, said:

1 is actually true. When watching Tests of the Emergency Broadcast System is more fun, it takes too much time.(actually KIND OF TRUE, yes it can be 10+ minutes but that is not the norm for me-mostly 5 or so mins..but then I usually wait 2-4 mins for a solo q match so......)
2 is true for some units. (For very few units indeed. So don't join them? Mine has one entry requirment: don't be an ass. that's it. Super elitetryhard huh?)
3, obvious sarcasm, skipped. (But very much deserved sarcasm, this is the attitude pushed at unit players by solos. This bad attitude needs dragging into the light and not to be ignored.)
4 is too simple. (But again, I see that response so often. WHY SHOULD I? I DON'T WANT TO ME ME ME)
You missed some. (Sadly, yes he did. Some of the other "reasons" are even worse.)

1 - I played CW back at the beginning of the year when there were more players and a lot of times I had to wait 10+ minutes. Could be Faction population drives time, I played for Davion where you are Kurita, near the Clan border you may get more matches especially since IS can mix Factions on a world they are Defending.

2 - The units with lower requirements seem to be the ones having a harder time getting 12 man groups. Being casual is good for a person's RL but hell in game for grouping.

So the choice, in simple terms, is a team with high requirements you may not meet or a team with more relaxed requirements but has problems getting 12.

3 - Odd since I am a solo and never said it. There are a few units that convinced me they are tools by their conduct just like a small amount of solos have.

4 - Look up the articles on the changing attitudes happening since Generation X and the tests that prove it, explains a lot both in and out of game. Helluva fight if you want to change those trends.

[ComradeHavoc]

You people sure ***** a lot... all of you. Like a bunch of creepy 30-40 year olds gargling at each other in a DnD game without solving anything.

I've honestly seen kindergartners come to a quicker logical understanding, you guys are pretty toxic as far as grumpy communities go.

Look we all play mechwarrior, some of us want change, some of us are against it. Hug and kiss people, because being divided won't help the game.

Edited by ComradeHavoc, 11 July 2015 - 10:19 PM.

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R Razor, on 11 July 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

The only behavior I see that even comes close to your "sociopath" subtype is the behavior exhibited by you and your buddy and your constant crowing that everyone has to play your way.

Guess what skippy, this is a GAME not real life, and in this GAME there is absolutely ZERO requirement for anyone to play YOUR way...........just like you aren't obligated to play the game THEIR way. Get over yourselves already.

And if you honestly think I give two damns about your "worry" over my opinion on this matter you have a LOT to learn..........maybe start with some spelling lessons, whether you believe you need them or not.

Such a predictable bad boy you are. You have some real issues. Oh and the dig at me about spelling? Did you really sit there and think that was a good idea?
Such a badass.
Still doesn't change the fact of your obligations when performing an endeavour with other people. You say me and my buddy (who is that by the way?) want you solo types to conform to our way of playing, but you and your solo brigade want the same. You seem to want every game mode outside of group Q to be solo....
All I ever wanted was for people to work together when playing in a team. Now how is that a bad thing or a hard ask?
But you seem to be so far up/down your own orifice(s) proclaiming your rights you miss that.
Social interactions transcend real life (as in physical world), the things you do online have value too. The friends you make also have value, this also means the social obligations and contracts follow onto online activities too. The fact it's online hardly matters. The fact you won't recognize these things don't make them any less real.

All anyone wants of a solo guy in CW is:
The willingness to work as a team
To communicate
Not go off John Rambo style and endanger the team.

That's it. But are you so sociopathic that even that is too much?

[Wildstreak]

ComradeHavoc, on 11 July 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

Hug and kiss people, because being divided won't help the game.

I got your Hug & Kiss right here.

[Kin3ticX]

R Razor, on 11 July 2015 - 10:20 AM, said:

Wrong, nobody is obligated to adapt to how any other player operates...........the fact that people like you think there are is a fundamental problem that PGI needs to address.

If team A always beats team B, then team B can try to change things up to win or just accept losing every time. (or quit and cry on the forums about how much the game sucks because they are stubborn and crusty)

If team B always beats rando skittles, the randos can either change things up or just accept losing almost every time. (or quit and cry on the forums about how much the game sucks because they are stubborn and crusty)


PGI needs to address me? LoL wut

Edited by Kin3ticX, 12 July 2015 - 12:28 PM.

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R Razor, on 11 July 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

The only behavior I see that even comes close to your "sociopath" subtype is the behavior exhibited by you and your buddy and your constant crowing that everyone has to play your way.

You really are that angry about this.

[Jon Gotham]

Kin3ticX, on 12 July 2015 - 12:30 PM, said:

You really are that angry about this.

Him and quite a few others it seems.Expecting people to play as a team in a team based mode is wrong and oppressive it seems.
That's all people have been saying.
Solo players are more than welcome-solo play isn't. Nothing offensive about that at all, basically please play as a member of our team because y;know..you ARE in it...
But he seems to be the type who is so dead set against conformity (even when it makes perfect sense) that he'll rage and spit and argue...because...

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