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[Idealsuspect]

Daruwind, on 19 July 2015 - 02:38 AM, said:

Well solution would be quite simple. Create one planet (Like Earth,Tukayyik or any other one..) with non-stop battle only for solo players. Random map, random mod, nobody can conquer the planet. You can even add option IS vs IS, clan vs clan, mixed side vs mixed side... and that´s it. Hardcore units can still ghost drop planets and fight with other units and all solo droppers, pugs and everybody else will have battles without waiting, without risk of premade vs 12 pugs....

Alternativitely they could add ability for premades to bid away their mech/tonnage in order to get modifier for c-bills, LP.... imagine KCom, 228, -MS- .... when facing 12 pugs, They could bid away 1 mech/60 tons to get 1,25x time for rewards in case of victory..or even 2 mech/120tonns to get 1,5x better rewards. Hell that would even allow pugs to have chance....as even the better team usually lost 12+ merchs...

Yea exactly !! Like a tukkayid planet during the event.
In fact pugs who play CW without group don't care about cap or defend a planet/faction, they just want play CW games and grab CW rewards.

Solution is simple cause most of MWO CW problem balance should be result by a kid... PGI maybe will fix it in a year if they focus or in 2 years like with some others problems if they keep don't listen communauty.

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TWIAFU, on 19 July 2015 - 03:01 AM, said:

WTF!

Now you want to separate queues by how much someone spends?!?!?!

Now ? I always wanted this and only this.. It seem you didn't really read what people ( me ) write
Anyway.

Edited by Idealsuspect, 19 July 2015 - 06:20 AM.

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TWIAFU, on 19 July 2015 - 03:14 AM, said:

What's fair to me? Playing within the rules given for the game and not changing them because I do not want to follow them.

Rules always elvove with time even it hurt some peoples who don't want game open to more people... Only unwise kids thinks everything can't and will never evolve.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Idealsuspect, on 19 July 2015 - 06:23 AM, said:

Rules always elvove with time even it hurt some peoples who don't want game open to more people... Only unwise kids thinks everything can't and will never evolve.

What 'more people' are you talking about? CW is NOT a new player friendly place, regardless of whether you face PUGs or 12 mans, it's NOT newbie friendly. You need a good dropdeck, which means 4 Mechs that you have Mastered and upgraded/fully kitted out complete with modules. That is so far from newbie land it's not funny.

CW, much like modules, isn't for new players, it's for accomplished players who have an idea of how to play the game and are looking for something with some depth that actually has an influence on the game world. That is, once capturing planets MEANS something, which currently it doesn't.

CW is not the place you drop to kill 20 minutes, it's not the for new players to figure out how their Mech works and what weapons do, which is something we see in CW all too often. There really DOES need to be a warning that CW isn't for newbies when you go to enter it.

You want to just drop and kill stuff, we've got solo and group ques SPECIFICALLY for that purpose, drop and play all you want in whatever you want however you want.

Or do you really think CW is meant for the new players? If you do think so, that explains so much, as you simply do NOT understand what CW is supposed to be at all and are trying to make it into something else totally.

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Kristov Kerensky, on 19 July 2015 - 07:42 AM, said:

What 'more people' are you talking about? CW is NOT a new player friendly place, regardless of whether you face PUGs or 12 mans, it's NOT newbie friendly. You need a good dropdeck, which means 4 Mechs that you have Mastered and upgraded/fully kitted out complete with modules. That is so far from newbie land it's not funny.

CW, much like modules, isn't for new players, it's for accomplished players who have an idea of how to play the game and are looking for something with some depth that actually has an influence on the game world. That is, once capturing planets MEANS something, which currently it doesn't.

CW is not the place you drop to kill 20 minutes, it's not the for new players to figure out how their Mech works and what weapons do, which is something we see in CW all too often. There really DOES need to be a warning that CW isn't for newbies when you go to enter it.

You want to just drop and kill stuff, we've got solo and group ques SPECIFICALLY for that purpose, drop and play all you want in whatever you want however you want.

Or do you really think CW is meant for the new players? If you do think so, that explains so much, as you simply do NOT understand what CW is supposed to be at all and are trying to make it into something else totally.

Hehe you are ridiculous . " CW is HARDCORE MODE " ... currently it's exactly same game with different maps and respawn for everyone
You want play MWO in hardcore mode ? you don't need to drop in CW .... just disable your hud ( Maj+F11 ) and play the game whatever it's CW or not...
You want play real hardcore CW mode, put only trial mechs in your drop deck and drop solo xD.
You want play hardcore² mode ? Do both things above.


CW need mastered dropdeck ( regular queue don't ? ) i am ok with this obvious argue but in fact why PGI allow people to build a full trial dropdeck and then drop solo ? It's ridiculous too.

Edited by Idealsuspect, 19 July 2015 - 07:56 AM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Idealsuspect, on 19 July 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

Hehe you ridiculous .

So you really don't have any idea what CW is supposed to be, that makes your arguments much clearer now.

You are trying to turn the World Cup Finals into a local child's football game, just so you have an idea of what you are trying to do with your suggestions for CW. That is how PGI stated CW is to be, that's not something WE, the players, made up or are trying to enforce on CW, that's directly from PGI.

[Satan n stuff]

Yellonet, on 12 July 2015 - 04:22 PM, said:

I really don't understand what would be wrong with this.
Also, I can't think of a game that forces you to play maps you don't want to play.

How about every game ever? Try getting a match on one of the less popular maps in most games, it won't happen, no matter how sick you are of playing the same map over and over.

Kristov Kerensky, on 19 July 2015 - 07:42 AM, said:

What 'more people' are you talking about? CW is NOT a new player friendly place, regardless of whether you face PUGs or 12 mans, it's NOT newbie friendly. You need a good dropdeck, which means 4 Mechs that you have Mastered and upgraded/fully kitted out complete with modules. That is so far from newbie land it's not funny.

CW, much like modules, isn't for new players, it's for accomplished players who have an idea of how to play the game and are looking for something with some depth that actually has an influence on the game world. That is, once capturing planets MEANS something, which currently it doesn't.

CW is not the place you drop to kill 20 minutes, it's not the for new players to figure out how their Mech works and what weapons do, which is something we see in CW all too often. There really DOES need to be a warning that CW isn't for newbies when you go to enter it.

You want to just drop and kill stuff, we've got solo and group ques SPECIFICALLY for that purpose, drop and play all you want in whatever you want however you want.

Or do you really think CW is meant for the new players? If you do think so, that explains so much, as you simply do NOT understand what CW is supposed to be at all and are trying to make it into something else totally.

You don't actually need a great fully kitted out drop deck as long as you're prepared to compensate for it, but that's something no newb is going to be able to do. I've got no problem with grinding mechs in CW, but I won't put intentionally bad builds in my drop deck.

Edited by Satan n stuff, 19 July 2015 - 08:33 AM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

Idealsuspect, on 19 July 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

Hehe you are ridiculous . " CW is HARDCORE MODE " ... currently it's exactly same game with different maps and respawn for everyone
You want play MWO in hardcore mode ? you don't need to drop in CW .... just disable your hud ( Maj+F11 ) and play the game whatever it's CW or not...
You want play real hardcore CW mode, put only trial mechs in your drop deck and drop solo xD.
You want play hardcore² mode ? Do both things above.


CW need mastered dropdeck ( regular queue don't ? ) i am ok with this obvious argue but in fact why PGI allow people to build a full trial dropdeck and then drop solo ? It's ridiculous too.

Ok, so after my response you totally redid your post, let me address your new points...

First off, I didn't say CW was hardcore, I said PGI said it's meant to be the playground of the competent players who's been around long enough to build full dropdecks with completely kitted out Mechs, players who understand how the game works and want something more, something that will have an influence on the game world. CW doesn't have ALL of that right now, taking/losing planets means nothing currently. Game play IS different, no matter that YOU play it exactly as you do non-CW maps(which explains why your 9 man group was getting stomped by a 5 man, which I pointed out and you ignored). CW maps DO require different play than non-CW maps, your failure to understand that makes no difference to the reality.

Considering all the people who are complaining about CW play, getting stomped by 12 mans(bogus as shown by Russ), and all the other complaints about CW show that it's NOT the same as playing a non-CW map. They do require teamwork, they do require you know what you are about, if you want to win. People obviously don't do teamwork nor do they actually know what they are about, hence the whines.

Those of us who understand that CW is different, we don't whine, we know it's working as intended and we enjoy that fact. We'd LIKE to see CW actually mean something, but we also understand it's still in a beta state and is still a work in progress on that end. We don't mind dropping as solo PUGs in CW, something many of us do a lot of as it happens, and we understand that we're going to get stomped if we play like 12 random morons. Unlike the non-CW maps, playing like 12 random morons means you'll get stomped every single time, non-CW maps you can actually get a win playing that way, and that's something you, and so many others, simply don't get.

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Kristov Kerensky, on 19 July 2015 - 08:40 AM, said:

Ok, so after my response you totally redid your post, let me address your new points...

First i didn't redid my post just after see your post, i saw your other post right now with this one.
Check times i can't write all i add in a single minute...
In fact just for wrote what you read now it take me more than a minute >>> Not english native.


And CW is different game mode than ASSAUT or CONQUEST yea ( obvious again ) but like i said it's still MWO also the same game ...
Different game mode that's all.

Kristov Kerensky, on 19 July 2015 - 08:40 AM, said:

Game play IS different, no matter that YOU play it exactly as you do non-CW maps(which explains why your 9 man group was getting stomped by a 5 man, which I pointed out and you ignored)

[no reason to insult other players..]

First it wasn't MY group just a group i saw in planet queue selection and with i decided to jump with for have a fair match or an easy match yea yea ^^.
Second we won in their territory by gen kill and we were attackers also where is the stomp you talk about....
Thirdly i said if other didn't get the 5' ( happend a lot with defensor queue ) they would be stomped even all single guy in the formed 9' of my team was really good as any average pug of the whole playerbase .... It mean they weren't good at all.

Yep people who drop in large premade in CW aren't good for most of them some are and most of them are just average ... like pugs playerbase and don't cry if you don't agree it's just a fact...

Edited by CyclonerM, 20 July 2015 - 02:40 AM.
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