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[CDLord HHGD]

I think the Grand Dragon would be a beneficial addition to the game. With the introduction of the IIC mechs, PGI can either add the Grand's variants to the Dragon lineup or start a whole new chassis tree.

The Grand uses the same three letter moniker as the Dragon so could go either way. Be a good excuse for some style variations and more hardpoint options. The Dragon/Grand Dragon could become one of the most versatile chassis (next to IMO the HBKs).

[bad arcade kitty]

grand dragon it's just a version of dragon, not a separate mech

it can be imitated with drg-1c
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...282c86421536b08

[Juodas Varnas]

bad arcade kitty, on 15 July 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

grand dragon it's just a version of dragon, not a separate mech

it can be imitated with drg-1c
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...282c86421536b08

I believe, that even though, it started out as just a variant of the Dragon, later on was considered to be a different mech altogether.

Also, it would be nice to implement it, just so they could differentiate the Dragon from the Grand Dragon, by removing the lower arm actuator from the Dragon and keeping the full arm on the Grand Dragon.
And exchanging the claw arm for a humanoid hand for the Grand Dragon.

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 15 July 2015 - 11:09 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

bad arcade kitty, on 15 July 2015 - 11:04 AM, said:

grand dragon it's just a version of dragon, not a separate mech

it can be imitated with drg-1c
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...282c86421536b08

True, there is some overlap both in MWO and from the TROs, however, the Grand has a separate lineup of variants from that of the Dragon.

Dragon
Grand Dragon

[Yosharian]

cdlord, on 15 July 2015 - 11:23 AM, said:

True, there is some overlap both in MWO and from the TROs, however, the Grand has a separate lineup of variants from that of the Dragon.

Dragon
Grand Dragon

Soooo you just want more Dragons?

Uh...

[CDLord HHGD]

Yosharian, on 15 July 2015 - 12:03 PM, said:

Soooo you just want more Dragons?

Uh...

The Dragon/Grand Dragon is an iconic mech for the DCMS. That some say it has lackluster performance in MWO is by no fault of the mech(s).

The Dracs are gonna want them come the battle for Luthien and Operations Scorpion/Bulldog.
R.I.Pieces Smoke Jags.

[Revis Volek]

cdlord, on 15 July 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

The Dragon/Grand Dragon is an iconic mech for the DCMS. That some say it has lackluster performance in MWO is by no fault of the mech(s).

The Dracs are gonna want them come the battle for Luthien and Operations Scorpion/Bulldog.
R.I.Pieces Smoke Jags.

lol, PGI wont allow anyone to be whipped off the map now, what makes you think they would allow a whole factions to be removed via the lore?

We are rewriting lore here....PGi is trend setters....


and to the OP,

We already have the Grand Dragon...its just mislabeled in MWO....the Dragon does not have a lower arm actuator and is like the picture above.

So change your petition to ask for the ACTUAL DRAGON!

Edited by DarthRevis, 15 July 2015 - 01:33 PM.

[CDLord HHGD]

DarthRevis, on 15 July 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

lol, PGI wont allow anyone to be whipped off the map now, what makes you think they would allow a whole factions to be removed via the lore?

We are rewriting lore here....PGi is trend setters....


and to the OP,

We already have the Grand Dragon...its just mislabeled in MWO....the Dragon does not have a lower arm actuator and is like the picture above.

So change your petition to ask for the ACTUAL DRAGON!

Excellent portrayal of what the Jags were thinking at the time! The RP is strong with this one.

Irregardless, we have the Dragon thus the Grand Dragon is waiting on the sidelines for it's chance and as I said in my OP, it could be additional variants of the Dragon chassis or, as with the HBK IIC, it's own line.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

DarthRevis, on 15 July 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

the Dragon does not have a lower arm actuator and is like the picture above.

So change your petition to ask for the ACTUAL DRAGON!

In all the artwork for the Dragon, you are correct, it never looked to have a lower arm actuator.
In reality though, all the record sheets for the Dragon have the lower arm actuator, Grand or otherwise.

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Look, I love my dragons and have since closed beta but the damn things are death traps that almost no one plays (except the 1N dakka cheese). Do, unless they're accompanied by a new model they're DOA and no one will buy them for MC or in the gift store which means PGI won't make any money. In short, it ain't gonna happen.

[bad arcade kitty]

i dunno what these freeborns talk about when wolves already took terra... twice

[Tennex]

Both the dragon and the grand dragon have right lower arm actuators.

They made that concept art based on the TRO of the dragon holding up its right arm, and all the art based off of that have the misconception that the right arm is not articulated.

Edited by Tennex, 15 July 2015 - 02:24 PM.

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I'd be happy to see a few side-variants added: Grand Dragon, Caesar, etc.

[Gigastrike]

cdlord, on 15 July 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

The Dragon/Grand Dragon is an iconic mech for the DCMS. That some say it has lackluster performance in MWO is by no fault of the mech(s).

The Dracs are gonna want them come the battle for Luthien and Operations Scorpion/Bulldog.
R.I.Pieces Smoke Jags.

I for one would welcome a wider variety of Dragons on the battlefield.

[Slepnir]

The real difference between the grand and regular dragon is a shift to less ammo dependent weapons and different mounts.

the closest you can come now is the flame but you have to put the high mounted torso enegy weapons in the arms, reducing survivability.


on my list of other iconic kurita mechs is in the komodo and hatamoto chassis

Edited by Slepnir, 15 July 2015 - 11:54 PM.

[El Bandito]

cdlord, on 15 July 2015 - 10:27 AM, said:

I think the Grand Dragon would be a beneficial addition to the game. With the introduction of the IIC mechs, PGI can either add the Grand's variants to the Dragon lineup or start a whole new chassis tree.

The Grand uses the same three letter moniker as the Dragon so could go either way. Be a good excuse for some style variations and more hardpoint options. The Dragon/Grand Dragon could become one of the most versatile chassis (next to IMO the HBKs).

http://mwomercs.com/...om-5s-variants/

Need Commando-5S too.

Edited by El Bandito, 16 July 2015 - 12:29 AM.

[MauttyKoray]

Juodas Varnas, on 15 July 2015 - 11:08 AM, said:

I believe, that even though, it started out as just a variant of the Dragon, later on was considered to be a different mech altogether.

Also, it would be nice to implement it, just so they could differentiate the Dragon from the Grand Dragon, by removing the lower arm actuator from the Dragon and keeping the full arm on the Grand Dragon.
And exchanging the claw arm for a humanoid hand for the Grand Dragon.

I'd be 100% behind adding the grand dragon.

In fact, the above Dragon concept's right arm, with a more humanoid left arm, and let Alex run it through his MWO'ifier to make it a little more fancy than the Dragon, and I'd say throw it in the next IS pack lol.

[LordKnightFandragon]

THen the Hatomoto Chi?

[Joseph Mallan]

cdlord, on 15 July 2015 - 12:31 PM, said:

The Dragon/Grand Dragon is an iconic mech for the DCMS. That some say it has lackluster performance in MWO is by no fault of the mech(s).

The Dracs are gonna want them come the battle for Luthien and Operations Scorpion/Bulldog.
R.I.Pieces Smoke Jags.

Actually it has had a lackluster performance cause its mostly engine not enough bite. That is something that has been true for 30 years.

bad arcade kitty, on 15 July 2015 - 02:19 PM, said:

i dunno what these freeborns talk about when wolves already took terra... twice

In a sim. CW is in Beta so anything the Wolves have done has only been in practice.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Joseph Mallan, on 16 July 2015 - 02:19 AM, said:

Actually it has had a lackluster performance cause its mostly engine not enough bite. That is something that has been true for 30 years.


In a sim. CW is in Beta so anything the Wolves have done has only been in practice.

Thats basically true for both side, since none of it is recorded in our stats.