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[LordBraxton]

This is a PSA for anyone who hasn't caught on. If you want to buy the IIC package, buy before the end of the month. Don't even think about giving PGI money after the end of the month. All of the best\most unique variants are the pre-order exclusives, including a couple of the only XL variants. (ppl like me who ordered wave 3 late learned the hard way) You will be getting shafted if you don't buy before the end of the month. I am still on the fence, torn between getting the 'best deal,' and refusing to give PGI a cent because of how long the paywalls have gotten. I have to preorder NOW, and give them $80, or I can't have full access to the IIC variants until... 12+ months from now potentially? Insanity. Who else is on the fence? EDIT: both the dual ballistic highlander and orion are early variants. the early jenner is the only one with 6E hardpoints. the other jenner, orion, and highlander variants are all very similar. The only mech that doesn't get totally shafted by early adopter is the HBKIIC, unless I am missing something.

Edited by LordBraxton, 23 July 2015 - 10:02 AM.

[Rhaythe]

Dumb question. Anyone know what happens if you throw 20 bucks down for the Jenner IIC now, then after the 31st upgrade to a different package? Do your "early preorders" extend to the upgraded packages, or just the Jenner?

[Widowmaker1981]

Rhaythe, on 23 July 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:

Dumb question. Anyone know what happens if you throw 20 bucks down for the Jenner IIC now, then after the 31st upgrade to a different package? Do your "early preorders" extend to the upgraded packages, or just the Jenner?

Just the Jenner

[Wolfwood592]

I personally will not be spending anymore money on this game as I believe my several hundred dollars thus far has begun to support a group of designers who are creating a sub-par game with top-end price expectations.

[LordBraxton]

That wasn't a dumb question, it was a good one. So buy what you want now, and don't even dream of upgrading later. I feel seriously ripped off with wave 3, since the 'bonus' variant for each mech has all the variety, and I am left with a bunch of nigh identical pods\builds.@ Wolfwood: I agree with you. PGI is the only dealer in town, and they are selling me Mexican brick-weed for California medical prices. Sadly I'm an addict, so I'm still on the fence. If you are going to buy IIC, do it now, but if not, GOOD FOR YOU, russ is a con artist.

Edited by LordBraxton, 23 July 2015 - 06:44 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

When I buy packages, I am only interested in the (I) variants anyways, once skilled, I sell the rest.

[Wolfwood592]

LordBraxton, on 23 July 2015 - 06:43 AM, said:

That wasn't a dumb question, it was a good one. So buy what you want now, and don't even dream of upgrading later. I feel seriously ripped off with wave 3, since the 'bonus' variant for each mech has all the variety, and I am left with a bunch of nigh identical pods\builds.@ Wolfwood: I agree with you. PGI is the only dealer in town, and they are selling me Mexican brick-weed for California medical prices. Sadly I'm an addict, so I'm still on the fence. If you are going to buy IIC, do it now, but if not, GOOD FOR YOU, russ is a con artist.

Hit the nail on the head....been addicted to Battletech for years and I am ashamed of the money I have spent on this! lol

[LordBraxton]

cdlord, on 23 July 2015 - 06:44 AM, said:

When I buy packages, I am only interested in the (I) variants anyways, once skilled, I sell the rest.

For clan this makes sense because of omnipods, but there are variants in the IIC set that are vastly different. The bonus highlander (at the highest cost and soonest preorder window ofcourse) is the dual ballistic + xl engine variant. Basically a must have, and totally worth keeping. (dual 20, or 10+20 is gonna be nuts)

[CDLord HHGD]

LordBraxton, on 23 July 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:

For clan this makes sense because of omnipods, but there are variants in the IIC set that are vastly different. The bonus highlander (at the highest cost and soonest preorder window ofcourse) is the dual ballistic + xl engine variant. Basically a must have, and totally worth keeping. (dual 20, or 10+20 is gonna be nuts)

I'm really not interested in the hardpoints/meta.... I'll make the (I) work just fine. While this means I can't throw up the numbers some people do, it also means I am the least affected by incoming nerfs.

[sycocys]

I'm on the fence because of the extremely slow progress on the game on one hand - and on the other hand Hunchbacks with jump jets and 2 ultra ac/20s or 4 ultra ac/10s.

Really disappointed with the slow progress, but they added the one mech to this pack that would have made me even consider buying another one.

[Hit the Deck]

LordBraxton, on 23 July 2015 - 06:46 AM, said:

For clan this makes sense because of omnipods, but there are variants in the IIC set that are vastly different. The bonus highlander (at the highest cost and soonest preorder window ofcourse) is the dual ballistic + xl engine variant. Basically a must have, and totally worth keeping. (dual 20, or 10+20 is gonna be nuts)

Well, dual UAC/20 or UAC/20+10 isn't possible because of pod space limit on the right arm.

I'm also on the fence about this because the early adopter variants are so tempting!

[MeiSooHaityu]

I'll pass anyway. I prefer IS mechs anyway. I play Clan mechs occasionally on the side for the heck of it, so I can wait for C-Bill availability.

[0bsidion]

For Wave 3, the only 4th variant that I really cared about was Shadow Cat P. Looking at the 4th variants for Origin, the only 4th variant that does anything for me is the Orion's. I could pass on the rest of them. I don't see what the big deal is.

[Lexx]

sycocys, on 23 July 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:

I'm on the fence because of the extremely slow progress on the game on one hand - and on the other hand Hunchbacks with jump jets and 2 ultra ac/20s or 4 ultra ac/10s.

Really disappointed with the slow progress, but they added the one mech to this pack that would have made me even consider buying another one.

Have fun trying to fit 40 tons of weaponry + ammo on a 50 ton mech.

[sycocys]

0bsidion, on 23 July 2015 - 06:55 AM, said:

For Wave 3, the only 4th variant that I really cared about was Shadow Cat P. Looking at the 4th variants for Origin, the only 4th variant that does anything for me is the Orion's. I could pass on the rest of them. I don't see what the big deal is.

I don't know the quad ac/10s on the Hunchback are going to make that a pretty butch ballistics machine. After watching our unit leader run the one Warhawk with 4 of them pre-ballistics buff its a pretty nasty setup stock.

[GeistHrafn]

I really don't understand why this has to be in it's own thread. I get it, you're upset you're missing the extra variants from Wave 3. I'm in exactly the same boat, I wasn't around when the pre-order was on to take advantage of it.

But complaining about something that was clearly announced by PGI isn't going to change anything. You can't claim that people are being "shafted" when they are aware of the issues. They made it clear how it was going to work. Sure as hell you telling me what to do isn't going to make one iota of difference to my decision to purchase the content, or when I choose to purchase it.

[LordBraxton]

Hit the Deck, on 23 July 2015 - 06:51 AM, said:

Well, dual UAC/20 or UAC/20+10 isn't possible because of pod space limit on the right arm.

I'm also on the fence about this because the early adopter variants are so tempting!

I thought the variant had 1 B in each arm. (I think it does actually, the 4th one)

Rhazien, on 23 July 2015 - 07:00 AM, said:

I really don't understand why this has to be in it's own thread. I get it, you're upset you're missing the extra variants from Wave 3. I'm in exactly the same boat, I wasn't around when the pre-order was on to take advantage of it.

But complaining about something that was clearly announced by PGI isn't going to change anything. You can't claim that people are being "shafted" when they are aware of the issues. They made it clear how it was going to work. Sure as hell you telling me what to do isn't going to make one iota of difference to my decision to purchase the content, or when I choose to purchase it.

This isn't about wave 3, it's about IIC. Not everyone cared about the wave 3 mechs that much, but mechs like the jenny and HBK IIC are classics, and I don't want anyone whose attention was piqued to get screwed.

Edited by LordBraxton, 23 July 2015 - 07:09 AM.

[sycocys]

Lexx, on 23 July 2015 - 06:57 AM, said:

Have fun trying to fit 40 tons of weaponry + ammo on a 50 ton mech.

Yeah your right I misread it, was just 2 of em on there. Their sale page display leaves something to be desired. Still on a medium with a reasonable amount of jumping ability it should be pretty interesting.

Also thanks for pointing that out so I re-read it - now I can skip the pre-sale because that's the one I would have ordered it for.

[Hit the Deck]

cdlord, on 23 July 2015 - 06:48 AM, said:

I'm really not interested in the hardpoints/meta.... I'll make the (I) work just fine. While this means I can't throw up the numbers some people do, it also means I am the least affected by incoming nerfs.

For me (and I guess it's also for others who have theorycrafted the possible loadouts) it's not about the numbers but the extra (early adopter) variants can change how you play your 'Mech! For example in Wave III: 6MG Shadow Cat and in Origins: dual ballistic Orion!

LordBraxton, on 23 July 2015 - 07:00 AM, said:

I thought the variant had 1 B in each arm

If it was so then people would have talked a lot more about the HGN-IIC since it can now mount dual Gauss. Thankfully it can still mount dual UAC/10 on the RA and make it like a big assault rifle.

[LordBraxton]

Hit the Deck, on 23 July 2015 - 07:06 AM, said:

For me (and I guess it's also for others who have theorycrafted the possible loadouts) it's not about the numbers but the extra (early adopter) variants can change how you play your 'Mech! For example in Wave III: 6MG Shadow Cat and in Origins: dual ballistic Orion!


If it was so then people would have talked a lot more about the HGN-IIC since it can now mount dual Gauss. Thankfully it can still mount dual UAC/10 on the RA and make it like a big assault rifle.

I must have been thinking of the orion, but 2UAC10 is still godly, I think the uac10 is my favorite AC of any faction now. Also, you are spot on, it isn't power level I care about, it's the fact that most of the diverse options are only possible with the 4th variants. So you miss out on half the customization if you don't preorder. The IIC box you are missing out on most of the best hardpoints and engines. (which is important since we will need to start collecting clan engines, yay )

Edited by LordBraxton, 23 July 2015 - 07:20 AM.