Free to Play is a model, in which it is relatively easier for someone to begin entering the game without having to make an initial investment and it is a good idea with MMOs because the more people you have at launch, the better the game is likely to be.
Now does that mean there is no cost of production? That there is ABSOLUTELY no cost under any conception? Perhaps not- but that is not what free means. According to my relative stance as a player I am initially paying nothing to play, which makes the game accessible, and according to such particulars free in a practical sense.
I mean the best things in life are free- oxygen, light, and the earth upon which we walk. Anyone who claims oxygen is the work of plants, gravity the work of the big bang and earth the work of dust collecting over billions of years and so "not really free" is attacking a straw man argument.
Anyways, freedom in an absolute sense is a meaningless concept (as another speaker has noted) but most times we use the term we are referring to the concept in a relative sense (free vs alternatives). In this sense Mechwarrior Online is free, and I welcome the chance to play this "Free to Play" MMO.
Again, freedom is relative. A free to play MMO means it is free for the consumer, a free country means that the citizen is free at birth and doesn't have to "earn" their freedom through climbing the ranks of a caste system like they do in the Clans.
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Freedom is Relative and Welcome
Started by PaintedWolf, Jul 05 2012 10:58 AM
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:04 AM
Okay I bought my friend lunch the other day, from his perspective, it was literally a free lunch. From my perspective, this is a free game. Freedom without perspective IS of course meaningless. Only in that sense can you make asinine statements like "nothing is free".
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM
It isn't free, everything is finite. We have the big crunch and empty space model. Ie someday in the far flung future everything will either crunch back together, or split so apart its heat death of the universe. Stuff is finite. To say it isn't is ignoring reality. How practical is it in a useful debate? Not really, but you can't deny science. In some contexts it is a straw man, but you can't simply go and close your eyes and be like blah blah blah this stuff doesn't happen because It's a strawman because the universe will then screw you up pretty bad.
Not to mention I think your on drugs or something, who are you trying to prove this too? I don't think anyone would disagree with you in a practical sense it's free. In a reality science checking sense no nothing is free. It's all borrowing of atoms and particles and electrical charges and the expending of it. Just because it takes a long timeline for it to exhaust doesn't mean its free. Anyways have fun being crazy in here.
Not to mention I think your on drugs or something, who are you trying to prove this too? I don't think anyone would disagree with you in a practical sense it's free. In a reality science checking sense no nothing is free. It's all borrowing of atoms and particles and electrical charges and the expending of it. Just because it takes a long timeline for it to exhaust doesn't mean its free. Anyways have fun being crazy in here.
Edited by Gamgee, 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM
what the Helllll ..... did i just get Rick Rolled?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:12 AM
Keizer, on 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:
what the Helllll ..... did i just get Rick Rolled?
Sure why not, it makes more sense than whatever the hell he's trying to prove and to whom.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:14 AM
Gamgee, on 05 July 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:
Sure why not, it makes more sense than whatever the hell he's trying to prove and to whom.
lol..... i agree it really didnt make much sense
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:24 AM
You know, typing your thoughts about whether free is actually Free costs calories and seconds from your life.
F2P is a profit model that maximizes player numbers (growing a loyal community) on the gamble of micro transactions as player’s buy in to the extras. If this was lego hello kitty the gamble would be a long shot since 5 to 12 year old girls don’t have paypal or credit cards. For MWO, the community age averages in the mid 30s so I think PGI will do fine. There are over 12000 Founders most of whom have never seen the Beta. That’s faith.
F2P is a profit model that maximizes player numbers (growing a loyal community) on the gamble of micro transactions as player’s buy in to the extras. If this was lego hello kitty the gamble would be a long shot since 5 to 12 year old girls don’t have paypal or credit cards. For MWO, the community age averages in the mid 30s so I think PGI will do fine. There are over 12000 Founders most of whom have never seen the Beta. That’s faith.
Edited by LakeDaemon, 05 July 2012 - 11:35 AM.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:30 AM
Is he waxing poetic or philosophic?
stating the obvious seems silly but sometimes... If this is one of those I don't know.
I am too old to say I have seen it all and young enough (50) to admit I don't know near enough
stating the obvious seems silly but sometimes... If this is one of those I don't know.
I am too old to say I have seen it all and young enough (50) to admit I don't know near enough
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:36 AM
I think I understand what you are saying, I'm just not sure why?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:37 AM
I like how he hasn't responded yet and we're all trying to do his work for him and figure out what the hell he's doing.
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