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#1 Dup

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:43 PM

Just a few questions regarding them

In CW, would they be available for clan, IS, or both?

The hunchback IIC has a 200XL engine, if one side torso gets blown away, does the other side torso need to be destroyed as well in order for the engine to blow up (per current clan mechs), or would it act as the IS XL where one side gone means certain death. I would imagine it would need to have both sides removed, but imagination isnt always clarity.


...wtb rifleman IIC and warhamer IIC

#2 Alistair Winter

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:47 PM

Hey mr. Dup. Where's your son, Fup?

Yes, all their equipment is clan equipment, so the XL engine counts as a clan XL. You need to lose both side torsos to die. IIC mechs will only be available to Clans in CW.

#3 Alan Davion

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:47 PM

View PostDup, on 25 July 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

Just a few questions regarding them

In CW, would they be available for clan, IS, or both?

The hunchback IIC has a 200XL engine, if one side torso gets blown away, does the other side torso need to be destroyed as well in order for the engine to blow up (per current clan mechs), or would it act as the IS XL where one side gone means certain death. I would imagine it would need to have both sides removed, but imagination isnt always clarity.


...wtb rifleman IIC and warhamer IIC


Clan only. They were originally IS mechs that left during the SLDF exodus, which would later become the clans. These mechs were at one point stored away for god-only-knows how long, before being brought out again, and re-designed from the ground up to use the lighter, better Clan tech.

So yes, that means you would have to lose both STs on the Hunchie to be destroyed per Clan XL rules.

Damnit Alistair, beat me too it.

#4 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 04:50 PM

View PostAlan Davion, on 25 July 2015 - 02:47 PM, said:


Clan only. They were originally IS mechs that left during the SLDF exodus, which would later become the clans. These mechs were at one point stored away for god-only-knows how long, before being brought out again, and re-designed from the ground up to use the lighter, better Clan tech.


Except the Jenner IIC which the Wolf's Dragoons sent them the specs for.

#5 Better Call Saul

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 05:16 AM

Any links to office PGI response on this, or just assumptions that Clan XL's in Omni mechs will be the same as battlemechs....

#6 Lord0fHats

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 05:24 AM

I assume the Clan XL will function identically in IIC mechs as it does in Omni-Mechs (both side torsos) but who knows. It's definitely a big red flag for game balance, and I'm curious what PGI has in mind in that area. Maybe the big upcoming rebalance has already been taken into account with the IIC mechs and we're just not in on the info yet?

#7 Haakon Magnusson

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 05:34 AM

View PostBetter Call Saul, on 26 July 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Any links to office PGI response on this, or just assumptions that Clan XL's in Omni mechs will be the same as battlemechs....

Really? it is like on front page

http://mwomercs.com/...03#entry4555603

#8 Weeny Machine

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 05:34 AM

View PostBetter Call Saul, on 26 July 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Any links to office PGI response on this, or just assumptions that Clan XL's in Omni mechs will be the same as battlemechs....


It is lore. Basically the IICs are clan mechs...the only difference is they do not use the modular omnipod system and thus are considered inferior by the clans.

#9 ScarecrowES

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 10:18 AM

View PostBush Hopper, on 26 July 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:


It is lore. Basically the IICs are clan mechs...the only difference is they do not use the modular omnipod system and thus are considered inferior by the clans.


Technically they ARE inferior in every way, in TT... except, with how MWO implemented IS/Clan balancing, IIC mechs are primed to lack the build and optimization drawbacks of clan omni-mechs, with all of their tech... so they'll technically be better than both IS Battlemechs and Clan Omni-mechs.

#10 Better Call Saul

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 06:10 PM

View PostBush Hopper, on 26 July 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:


It is lore. Basically the IICs are clan mechs...the only difference is they do not use the modular omnipod system and thus are considered inferior by the clans.


View PostHaakon Magnusson, on 26 July 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

Really? it is like on front page

http://mwomercs.com/...03#entry4555603


I reviewed the FAQ in June and not bothered to check back. Engine information Posted 11 July 2015 - 08:44 AM, thanks for drawing my attention to it.





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