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[NocturnalBeast]

Flash Frame, on 31 July 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

I like the idea of 3025 matches... BUT I also like the idea of modifying my mech slightly.

For instance, why am I stopped from investing the money to upgrade my small laser on a HBK-4G to a medium if I eat the .5 tonnage somewhere?

I understand customization can be a very tricky thing to balance in a game like this, even at the 3025 level, but pure stock mechs rarely hold my interest. Not because I can't do well in them, but because there are little things that bother me... or the fact that I want to run a proxy mech [for instance I can't use a Grasshopper with 2ppc 2mlas 2slas and an SRM4 pack as a proxy for a Warhammer 6K, or a Cataphract 3D to proxy for a standard Marauder]

That's literally, the only thing keeping me from agreeing to your game mode, I just find no fun in pure stock. There's too many little, tiny things that bother me about the stock mechs that I can fix with minor alterations to them that don't break the role of the mech. Armor levels being one of the biggest offenders.

The idea of this "game mode" is to challenge yourself and use mechs that are not optimized and that you are not completely comfortable in. Also, this will just be private matches with players who agree to these rules, if it is not something that you are interested in, then just move on and play the game however you want, no hard feelings.

Edited by Ed Steele, 31 July 2015 - 08:34 PM.

[NocturnalBeast]

During my long, miserable drive home, I have refined the rules for this "league" to make it as simple and accessible as possible. I will edit my original post shortly.

[Kain Demos]

Maybe some of us can get a clan version going. 5v5.

[NocturnalBeast]

Kain Demos, on 31 July 2015 - 08:42 PM, said:

Maybe some of us can get a clan version going. 5v5.

I have a Clan account and would be open to that idea in the future as well.

[NocturnalBeast]

OK, updated my original post. I am pretty tired tonight, so I am just going to do regular pug matches, but I should have a stock mech ready by tomorrow.

[VaudeVillain]

How about 3025 vs 3050 or Clan? I'd like to see more 3025 players against the rest. Since I only play 3025 era or earlier and no Star League era tech, I've tweaked my 'Mechs to be more of a match to the customizability of Clan 'Mechs in MWO so I can feel what it was really like for the Inner Sphere with the Clan invasion. I allow myself Artillery and Air Strike, but not UAV and allow myself Efficiencies where possible, because Clan and 3050 IS can do it all, while I might not be able to do a complete set because the other 'Mechs of the group are not 3025 compliant. I don't limit myself on modules either, but tend to go just increased range since reduced cooldown doesn't help with the heat issues.

Unfortunately, there's 2 big problems with running 3025 'Mechs that I hope get addressed one day. 1. Single Heat Sinks don't have proper heat dissipation capabilities versus Double Heat Sinks. 2. You score less overall, because you are so much slower, so you can't keep up with the group to get the group bonuses.

Here are some examples of what I run. The Heat Sinks are in addition to what's included in the Engine.

Atlas AS7-D -- 4 X Med Laser, 2 x AC/5, LRM-10, 6 tons AC/5 ammo, 3 tons LRM ammo, 15 HS, 275 Engine
Stalker STK-3F -- 2 x Lg Laser, 2 x Med Laser, 4 x LRM-5, 4 tons LRM ammo, 18 HS, 255 Engine
Awesome AWS-8Q -- 2 x PPC, 5 x Med Laser, 23 HS, 240 Engine
Catapault CPLT-C1 -- 3 x Med Laser, 2 x LRM-10, 5 tons LRM ammo, 15 HS, 200 Engine, 1 Jump Jet
Shadow Hawk SHD-2K -- Lg Laser, 3 SRM-4, 4 tons SRM ammo, 11 HS, 200 Engine, 1 Jump Jet
Hunchback HBK-4G -- 2 x Sm Laser, AC/20, 5 tons AC/20 ammo, 3 HS, 200 Engine
Centurion CN9-A -- Md Laser, AC/10, SRM-4, 3.5 tons AC/10 ammo, 1 ton SRM ammo, 3 HS, 200 Engine
Jenner JR7-D -- 2 x Md Laser, LRM-5, SRM-2, 1 ton LRM ammo, 1 ton SRM ammo, 5 HS, 200 Engine, 2 x Jump Jets
Spider SDR-5K -- 4 x Machine Guns, Md Laser, 4.5 tons MG ammo, 5 HS, 170 Engine, 2 x Jump Jets

Overall, playing in 3025 'Mechs are fun because you have to really be more heat conscious and it requires you to play smarter. People tell me I'm gimping the team, but I've gotten top damage many times.

Edited by GaiDaigoji, 31 July 2015 - 10:05 PM.

[Summon3r]

Kain Demos, on 31 July 2015 - 08:42 PM, said:

Maybe some of us can get a clan version going. 5v5.

would it be possible to even do clan vs IS? 1 star vs 2 lances? just throwing it out there with out thinking to much into the numbers part

[NocturnalBeast]

Well, it seems like there are too many different opinions on what "Stock" and "3025" is, so I will just leave this idea here and get back to my regular pug drops until there is an actual stock mech game mode.

[Cementi]

That is really to bad Ed. I would have loved to get in on this.

[Unnatural Growth]

Cementi, on 01 August 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

That is really to bad Ed. I would have loved to get in on this.

I agree. Don't give up on this just because a few are trying to tweak the rules to suit them. I would be interested as well, but my play time is greatly diminished now. And a stock mech doesn't cost that much unless you go assault chassis. Stick to your guns on this Ed, it does sound fun.

[LeucippusK]

I love stock

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Ed Steele, on 01 August 2015 - 04:34 PM, said:

Well, it seems like there are too many different opinions on what "Stock" and "3025" is, so I will just leave this idea here and get back to my regular pug drops until there is an actual stock mech game mode.

That is not something that you can have an opinion on. Stock is Stock. Just some noobs that know sh/it about the Lore and are too dumb to learn it got a problem with understandings.

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 01 August 2015 - 05:29 PM.

[Cementi]

If i could get my skunkworks (not sure whats wrong with it) to work I would list out all the 3025 legal MWO mechs so that there would be no confusion.

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Cementi, on 01 August 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

If i could get my skunkworks (not sure whats wrong with it) to work I would list out all the 3025 legal MWO mechs so that there would be no confusion.

TygerLily, on 25 April 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

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is done already

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 02 August 2015 - 03:46 AM.

[GeistHrafn]

Moving to Community Run Events sub-forum. Carry on!

[AriCri]

I'm really interested in and I'm wondering whether this opportunity is still alive and available!!!