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[MechWarrior3671771]

Conventional wisdom is that you don't need Radar Dep on an ECM mech, so use that slot for another module.

But the increased number of ECM mechs on the field means your own ECM will be countered. It also means that you will be switching your own ECM from disrupt to counter more often than before. So you will be "radar naked" for a significant part of each match.

So I'm seriously considering throwing radar dep back on my stable of Raven 3Ls.

What are your thoughts on this? Worth using radar dep again on ECM mechs?

Edited by Fenrisulvyn, 06 August 2015 - 07:31 AM.

[Deathlike]

Fenrisulvyn, on 06 August 2015 - 07:28 AM, said:

Conventional wisdom is that you don't need Radar Dep on an ECM mech, so use that slot for another module.

But the increased number of ECM mechs on the field means your own ECM will be countered. It also means that you will be switching your own ECM from disrupt to counter more often than before. So you will be "radar naked" for a significant part of each match.

So I'm seriously considering throwing radar dep back on my stable of Raven 3Ls.

What are your thoughts on this? Worth using radar dep again on ECM mechs?

The only actual time Radar Derp makes sense on ECM mechs is when brawling+countered or when a UAV is spotting you and you're getting into cover.

It's useful, but not in obvious ways.

[MechWarrior3671771]

"The only actual time Radar Derp makes sense on ECM mechs is when brawling+countered or when a UAV is spotting you and you're getting into cover"

Or switching your own ECM off to counter, right? I seem to be doing that a lot more lately. Esp when running streaks.

[Kira Onime]

I'm personally not putting radar derp on my ECM mechs first.
Everything else takes priority.

[Deathlike]

Kira_Onime, on 06 August 2015 - 07:44 AM, said:

I'm personally not putting radar derp on my ECM mechs first.
Everything else takes priority.

"Seismic first"

That is rule #1 for modules.

[Kira Onime]

Deathlike, on 06 August 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

"Seismic first"

That is rule #1 for modules.

I've already did a seismic pass on my mechs.... not as much as other people but I have around 10. Enough for my most played mechs,
I'm currently on radar derp.

[Clownwarlord]

Anti-LRM mech is a Kit Fox ...

Load up 3 AMS, 1 ECM 3 Medium Pulse Lasers.

Modules:
- Radar Dep
- All Ams modules maxed out and loaded up
- UAV and Arty

Stay with your team lrms can't target you but your equipment can rub off on others ... when missiles do target you or your friends then 3 ams with overload and range modules not much will get through.

[Roadkill]

Deathlike, on 06 August 2015 - 07:47 AM, said:

"Seismic first"

That is rule #1 for modules.

Further backed up by the fact that lights really don't need Radar Derp anyway. LRMs are terrible at tracking anything moving faster than ~130 kph, and pretty bad at things in the 115-130 range.

[Jman5]

I would say Seismic first, and then Radar Deprivation if you aren't using your hybrid slot for a weapon module. If you don't have any seismic to equip and aren't willing to move modules, then sure, go for the radar deprivation.

Edited by Jman5, 06 August 2015 - 10:12 AM.

[Monkey Lover]

Every time you use Seismic you're putting your mech at risk.Light mechs should never stop moving. I would put on sensor range because your job is to find the mechs. I use 4x zoom because I want to see others before they see me.

I put on bap for more sensor range and to counter ecm because I am running to atleast two ecms mechs every game.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 06 August 2015 - 10:29 AM.

[LORD ORION]

HBK-4J pilots love it when you don't take radar derp on your ECM mechs.

Nothing better than having the LRMs homing in on an ECM mech that thinks it reached safety.

[1453 R]

If you're running on a limited number of RaDerp modules, I would prioritize non-ECM 'mechs over ECM 'Mechs. Certainly there are times when RaDerp can cover your ECM in counter mode, or someone Beagling you, but the overall impact of the module, even in the current ECM-heavy environment, is still reduced. You'd get more mileage out of the module using it to cover a non-ECM heavy or fatbro than slapping it in a 3L. I'd go with something like TIG in a 3L over RaDerp myself, especially if said 3L isn't carrying an active probe because ECM kills half of what active probes do.

That said...if money is no object and a theoretically limitless number of RaDerps are available, or you can tolerate spending a year and a half moving modules around, RaDerp still has more impact on a 3L than, say...Speed Retention, or Improved Gyros, or most of the other completely worthless modules out there. In that case, go nuts.

[Event Horizon]

Depends on weight class and role.

Edited by Eugenics, 06 August 2015 - 02:33 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

it seems like (RadarDep + BAP/CAP = Diet ECM)
if you dont have ECM you can Run theses to Better your Diet ECM Chances,


however i dont think RadarDep is necessary for an ECM Mech,
if your close enough to be countered than most of the time Enemy has LOS anyway,
in that Case its mostly Useless as RadarDep doesnt work if your being looked at,