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[Coolant]

I like the new Team Damage statistic. I don't shoot teammates on purpose and don't teamkill, but I was surprised to find a had a score there sometimes. I think it might open the eyes of some people and I know I will be more careful to try and make sure that score is zero every match.

[Hades Trooper]

Most of my games have been 1-14 damage but one game was 33.

Wasnt even sure how i got that or maybe it was someone silly just walking into the arti strike i had placed, but no idea, and yet i got only 1 damage in a match i swear one of the dual guass shots had hit with 1 of the 2 rounds in a timbers arm who walk in front with my 360 ping on the EU server

[LordSkippy]

Triordinant, on 19 August 2015 - 03:51 AM, said:

Single digit team damage is acceptable. More is not. Everyone should be able to see everyone else's team damage.

Only time I went double digits yesterday was when a friendly Timberwolf decided to jump jet into the quad-large lasers stream I had going on a red guy.

[Duke ramulots]

I usually get teammates walking into my er large lasers after the beam has been on for a second. I takes no blame for that

[Lugh]

MeiSooHaityu, on 19 August 2015 - 01:56 AM, said:

I don't think there is an acceptable limit to concern yourself with. JustJust, as always, try not to shoot teammates.

I think it is more of a useful value for you to use than for your team to criticize. Private sounds good.

Shot block me and you just might suffer from my unwillingness to lay off the trigger. Sometimes I feel generous, sometimes I don't think YOU can hit the broadside of barn and KNOW I have the kill lined up.


Who's at fault? Me for lining up a shot and releasing it? or You for horning in on shot with dual gauss and you die because this is the 3rd or 4th time that match you were securing a kill you didn't need to?

[nehebkau]

THRESHOLD FOR "You need to learn to aim"

• If your friendly fire damage is < 5% of your total damage -- you are all good.
  
• If your friendly fire damage is 5%-10% of your enemy damage you need to learn how to move your cross hairs off target if someone walks in front of you and you need to stop running into your friendly light mechs at full speed!
  
• If your friendly fire damage is between 10% and 20% of your enemy damage you are just being a **** and not caring what is in front of you when you aim for the red square.
  
• if your friendly fire damage is >20% of your enemy damage you need to start equipping only MGs and flamers or equip no weapons and simply run into the enemy because you are more of a harm to your team than a help.

[4rcs1ne]

The most team damage I've done is 13. I was in my 4 L-pulse laser warhawk and some stupid spider decided to get in front of my shot and stand there. Man that is so frustrating.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Lugh, on 19 August 2015 - 06:17 AM, said:

Shot block me and you just might suffer from my unwillingness to lay off the trigger. Sometimes I feel generous, sometimes I don't think YOU can hit the broadside of barn and KNOW I have the kill lined up.


Who's at fault? Me for lining up a shot and releasing it? or You for horning in on shot with dual gauss and you die because this is the 3rd or 4th time that match you were securing a kill you didn't need to?

??? OK lol.

So somehow me saying there doesn't need to be a definable team damage number (just try and be careful as always), has something to do with deciding whether to intentionally blast a team mate in the back because he/she cut you off to steal your kill.

I don't see why my statement was quoted (I don't get the connection).

[Raggedyman]

Triordinant, on 19 August 2015 - 05:38 AM, said:

If you're using a slow projectile weapon like an IS AC20 or AC10 then you're excused if a teammate gets between you and your target after you pull the trigger. If you're using a "streaming" weapon like lasers, machineguns or Clan ACs you MUST instantly aim away to minimize the damage. I do it all the time.

I'm sorry, but last time I checked any combat manual on the planet it always, always, said to go behind your team mate if they are already firing their weapon. The short version is "incoming fire always has the right of way". The long version if "I really don't know what is that urgent that you have to run in-front of my clear shooting lane, but if you must insist on rushing through my fire to do whatever it is you are doing then I hope your body isn't made of anything delicate."

If I'm firing my incredibly obvious, totally visible, and distinctly wubby lasers and you choose to run through them then I am 100% confident as to who's favour the insurance claim would turn out.

[DAYLEET]

Has anyone tested friendly fire to know if it's total damage shown or not? Because i had many 1 points of damage. Maybe FF is already reduced ingame.

Edited by DAYLEET, 19 August 2015 - 08:22 AM.

[Almond Brown]

Hades Trooper, on 19 August 2015 - 05:23 AM, said:

mechfrogger sounds like fun

You can't leg Frogger, so it would suck.

[Mister Blastman]

Damn. Lately I've stopped moving my guns when my own teammates jump in front of me as I fire. If you're dumb enough to walk into the firing line, you get to have your ass lit on fire.

[Hades Trooper]

does FF get subtracted from your match score?

[Almond Brown]

nehebkau, on 19 August 2015 - 06:31 AM, said:

THRESHOLD FOR "You need to learn to aim"

• If your friendly fire damage is < 5% of your total damage -- you are all good.
  
• If your friendly fire damage is 5%-10% of your enemy damage you need to learn how to move your cross hairs off target if someone walks in front of you and you need to stop running into your friendly light mechs at full speed!
  
• If your friendly fire damage is between 10% and 20% of your enemy damage you are just being a **** and not caring what is in front of you when you aim for the red square.
  
• if your friendly fire damage is >20% of your enemy damage you need to start equipping only MGs and flamers or equip no weapons and simply run into the enemy because you are more of a harm to your team than a help.

WTH. 4.99% of 1000K is 49 damage? That is enough for multiple TK's, even if by mistake. Not close to acceptable...

Acceptable FF numbers calculations: FF damage / your damage done to enemy and if under .05 % (1/2 of 1%) your OK. That way as you hit more enemies, your FF threshold increases as well.

Matt2496, on 19 August 2015 - 07:57 AM, said:

The most team damage I've done is 13. I was in my 4 L-pulse laser warhawk and some stupid spider decided to get in front of my shot and stand there. Man that is so frustrating.

You are allowed to take those Lasers off a Friendly target you know. Or were you teaching them a lesson?

Mister Blastman, on 19 August 2015 - 08:45 AM, said:

Damn. Lately I've stopped moving my guns when my own teammates jump in front of me as I fire. If you're dumb enough to walk into the firing line, you get to have your ass lit on fire.

And everyone needs more teammates that think just like that. That silly game works both ways right?

Edited by Almond Brown, 19 August 2015 - 08:51 AM.

[Tarogato]

I've been collecting my friendly fire ever since the patch landed, this is what I've go so far. Mostly trying to get Basics on my WHKs which I just bought at the very end of the clan mech sale.

[Mister Blastman]

Almond Brown, on 19 August 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

And everyone needs more teammates that think just like that. That silly game works both ways right?

I used to care about stacking up kills. I don't anymore because I play very infrequently. But what I have noticed more of lately is folks crowding targets to try and steal kills, to the point you'll be firing and they just walk right in front of you and plow into the enemy.

Once the laser is firing I can't make it stop, right?

[Davegt27]

Yeah on this subject

You guys (not everyone) won’t be satisfied until you suck all the fun out of the game

I think I had one fun match yesterday

Deductions like these are not fun

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

The highest I got was 74. But that's me trying to team kill Karpundir at the end of a match when QQ is drunk in the group queue.

EDIT: It was two alphas from my ACH with 5 cERMLs.

Edited by Lord Scarlett Johan, 19 August 2015 - 09:23 AM.

[The Mech behind you]

I got only single digit so far and it comes from colision damage with teammates.

Btw if you get killed by overheating you'll see this in the end screen:

Suicide: 1

[4rcs1ne]

Almond Brown, on 19 August 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

You are allowed to take those Lasers off a Friendly target you know. Or were you teaching them a lesson?

He came in front of my shot after I had already fired. Of course I tried to avoid hitting him but at that point there was nothing I could do.