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[C E Dwyer]

Suko, on 20 August 2015 - 08:58 AM, said:

Since PSR went into effect I've been getting nothing but try hard meta in all my matches. If I hadn't been playing the game for the last three years, I'd assume GR, CERML and ISLPL are the only weapons in the game. I heard that they've been tracking the PSR stats since January or something, but did the recent switch over from Elo to PSR throw us into different tiers than we're used to before? I'm hoping so. Either I'm in a different tier than what I'm used to playing in, or a lot of players are running their meta mechs to try and puff up their PSR.

Your probably top tier going by your challenge score, so what did you really expect Lurm boats ??

[Lightfoot]

The only Gauss Rifles I have seen are on 2xGauss King Crabs and Dire Wolves and if those are the mechs they always have 2xGauss, so far.

The thing is that your teammates and opponents are all about your skill now rather than a mix so the only way to win is to build a good mech and play smart. No more Shadow Cats, no more Gladiators, probably no more Executioners too. If someone brings LRMs, they are good with them. I am just generalizing of course, but you see what I mean.

[Davers]

FupDup, on 20 August 2015 - 09:47 AM, said:

When certain game assets are more effective than other game assets, they will, by the laws of nature, start to become more common as the trickle-down effect runs it course. This concept isn't really new or exciting.

But it does need a poll.

Rhaythe, on 20 August 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

Why do people keep wanting 3/3/3/3 lifted? Is everyone really so obsessed with flying their heavy mechs that they want the game completely one-sided and skewed to make anything under 45 tons irrelevant?

In short, yes.

FupDup, on 20 August 2015 - 11:57 AM, said:

Some of the anti-3x4 people (like me) would rather have it so that mechs under 65 tons would actually be desireable to use on their own merits/effectiveness, rather than creating arbitrary player slots that only certain mechs can fill. Carrots instead of sticks.


It would be like trying to balance Gauss Rifles by saying "We want you to use more Autocannons, so we're going to limit each team to having only 4 total Gauss Rifles across all 12 players, that way you have to use ACs instead of Gauss now!" Or, "We don't want you to laser vomit, so each team of 12 players is limited to 3 laser boat mechs from now on!"

That would be pretty silly, wouldn't it?

For them to be desirable in a "free for all" matchmaker, mechs under 65 tons would have to perform like mechs over 65 tons. Hence we end up with mechs getting massive quirks all over again.

cdlord, on 20 August 2015 - 12:15 PM, said:

I don't agree. The new PSR takes into account match score which is influenced, in part, by the other things you do like NARC/TAG, and other goodies. Not just KILLKILLKILL.

All the other rewards are pretty meaningless compared to damage done. Now, if they wanted to have damage divided by 100 so it fit in better with the other scores...

[TLBFestus]

Paigan, on 20 August 2015 - 09:11 AM, said:

This thread just calls for:

Please stop using the term meta to express "overpowered". It means "after" / "beyond" / "above" in an ABSTRACT way (like meta study: a study analysing other studies. Or meta gaming: Gaining an ingame advantage by an outgame action, e.g. lag).
It does NOT just mean "super" on some measuring scale.
From an objective point of view, everyone not getting the abstract nature of the term must be considered stupid.
I don't care if that includes 90% of the MWO community.
Read and understand the definition. Your capability of doing so is a pretty good indicator for your intelligence.

Enough of you and your meta expressionism.

[Screech]

cdlord, on 20 August 2015 - 12:48 PM, said:

Hoping most of the damage dealers, aka metawarriors, find themselves in their own tier soon enough and I can NARC in relative usefulness.

But that gets back to my initial idea. I don't see "role warfare" being sustainable if the roles get generally associated to tiers. I am not advocating it I just see this as a consequence.

[bad arcade kitty]

Lightfoot, on 20 August 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

no more Gladiators, probably no more Executioners too

gladiator it is executioner

[InspectorG]

cSand, on 20 August 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

Thats my boy.

[H Seldon]

I'm just hoping they implement PSR on a per chassis basis. I do well in assault and heavy mechs. Haven't played light mechs since closed beta (too many nightmares from knockdowns). And haven't played mediums at all (except for the founders hunchback). So if I were to take out a medium or light, I would really suck bad, and probably should be in Tier 10