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[Darth Hotz]

During the last sale i broke my IS loalty and bought a set of timberwolfs. Now levelling them i finally realize how unbalanced this game really is. In the Timberwolfs i am doing 450 dmg and 1 kill minimum in nearly every game. Firepower, jumpjets, speed, agility, durability, no IS mech can even come close to these killing machines. ERPPC jumpsniper, Gauss/ERPPC, UAC20/ERMPL, ERML/6CSRM, holy... it feels like 21st century warfare vs WW2 equipment.

So please clanner propagandists in this forum, never again whine about IS quirks, how bad your lasers/balistics/lrms are or how restricted you are because you have fixed jumpjets and endo and ferro. Its just not true. Also please stop crying for any more buffs for your equipment, thats just as ridiculous as telling IS players, commenting on the unbalance, your standard "learn to play" reply. And finally, never again argue that a Thunderbolt 5SS, a Stalker 4N or a Dragon 1N are a threat on the battlefield. Compared to what i have seen what can be done with a Timberwolf, they are just peashooters.

Instead you should leave your comfort zone and do some rounds in IS mechs to get a realistic impression about what is skill, what is just superior equipment and what the current state of balance is. This might also help you to understand the real reason why clanners dominate the CW map.

[Dirk Le Daring]

Just out of curiosity......

Are you running them stock, or have you modified them in any way ?

[Drasari]

Watch out folks, we have a Clan expert here after taking the T-1 mech for clans.

I can grab any T-1 IS mech and spout the same crap you are right now OP. Good luck with the rest of this QQ thread.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Now join me playing Ice Ferrets and Mist Lynxes!

[Mcgral18]

Only 450 damage?
Just a single kill?



That's what a mid tier IS mech can easily get...Are you sure you're capable enough to state what balance is?

[Davers]

It's no exaggeration that i do on average 200 damage more a game in a Clan mech than in an IS one.

[bad arcade kitty]

here is another thread about an is player playing timberwolf for the first time

http://mwomercs.com/...ble-timberwolf/

SolutionCat, on 26 July 2015 - 01:15 PM, said:

I mostly pilot IS mechs, but I decided to save up for a clan mech and went with the timberwolf S. It is starting to feel like a mistake, have timberwolves really been nerfed down to be as awful as this mech feels? I can barely get 200 damage on most maps, I frequently overheat and just get my face torn off.

Thinking about selling it, bad idea/good idea?

[Nightmare1]

Darth Hotz, on 20 August 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

During the last sale i broke my IS loalty and bought a set of timberwolfs. Now levelling them i finally realize how unbalanced this game really is. In the Timberwolfs i am doing 450 dmg and 1 kill minimum in nearly every game. Firepower, jumpjets, speed, agility, durability, no IS mech can even come close to these killing machines. ERPPC jumpsniper, Gauss/ERPPC, UAC20/ERMPL, ERML/6CSRM, holy... it feels like 21st century warfare vs WW2 equipment.

So please clanner propagandists in this forum, never again whine about IS quirks, how bad your lasers/balistics/lrms are or how restricted you are because you have fixed jumpjets and endo and ferro. Its just not true. Also please stop crying for any more buffs for your equipment, thats just as ridiculous as telling IS players, commenting on the unbalance, your standard "learn to play" reply. And finally, never again argue that a Thunderbolt 5SS, a Stalker 4N or a Dragon 1N are a threat on the battlefield. Compared to what i have seen what can be done with a Timberwolf, they are just peashooters.

Instead you should leave your comfort zone and do some rounds in IS mechs to get a realistic impression about what is skill, what is just superior equipment and what the current state of balance is. This might also help you to understand the real reason why clanners dominate the CW map.

Okay, if you're not getting a minimum of 400 damage and 1 kill per match with your IS Mechs, then you're doing it wrong.

Clan Mechs aren't OP. You can see a lot of them, including some of your fabled Timbies, die in these vids:




^Used an Enforcer to kill nine Mechs and deal out 1309 damage (six of those Mechs were Clan). Skip to ~6:00 minutes for my epic 1v4 showdown against four Clanners.



^50-Ton HBK standing off multiple Mechs at range (including Clanners).



^Yen-Lo-Wang spitting Mechs (including Clanners and their infamous Stormcrow) left and right.



^50-ton Centurion jumping a Daishi and winning



^Old CW match of IS versus Clans. First life was a TDR-5S(P) with three kills and 1000+ damage. Second life was a BLR-1G that completely collapsed the enemy's right flank virtually solo and scored six kills.




^My TDR making a last stand and taking a bunch of Clanners with me (including those supposedly scary Stormcrows).

Bottomline: Clans are not OP. In fact, I think they are underpowered.

[Armored Yokai]

ANY mech can achieve that score of 450 damage and 1 kill as it is not hard to get....

Edited by Armored Yokai, 20 August 2015 - 07:23 PM.

[bad arcade kitty]

p.s. i will laugh for a while if mcgral18 will hide his tier or will be tier 3 or 2, he is probably the most cocky forum warrior

[Mcgral18]

bad arcade kitty, on 20 August 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

p.s. i will laugh for a while if mcgral18 will hide his tier or will be tier 3 or 2, he is probably the most cocky forum warrior

Just as I will laugh at you and the OP.

Also, why would I hide Tier 2? That's what I'm expecting.

Edited by Mcgral18, 20 August 2015 - 07:27 PM.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

Keep in mind these war machines are created to amplify human abilities in combat. The Timber Wolf has a considerably lower skill ceiling than your average IS battlemech.

Its a similar situation to the F-22 Raptor used by the United States Air Force. The Aircraft is so advanced and many of its rudimentary functions that pilots used to have to manage in older aircraft, is now managed by the computers; thus allowing the Pilot to focus on combat and therefor reach better performance.

[Ace Selin]

I think Stormcrows are more OP than Timberwolves (which certainly are great mechs). The Clan XL engine & their lightweight weapons really give the Clan mechs a big advantage, no doubt, hence the need for IS quirks. The problem is that the Clans have some great mechs like these 2 and the ACH, Dire, Loki, but then some mediocre mechs too and the point is to make more worthwhile without completely eliminating the current best ones. Not only do you have to balance weapons in this game but also every possibly combination of loadout (for every combination of omnipod for Clans) and then do the same for IS mechs whilst keeping them different but equal.

Then you see a good player in a Timber rip apart an average player in a Tbolt and there are cries of Clan OP pls nerf, whilst the next day a good player in a Tbolt rips apart an average player in a Timberwolf and there are cries of quircks OP pls nerf,
Too many people are biased to listen to for proper balance.

[Vezm]

Darth Hotz, on 20 August 2015 - 06:09 PM, said:

Instead you should leave your comfort zone and do some rounds in IS mechs to get a realistic impression about what is skill, what is just superior equipment and what the current state of balance is. This might also help you to understand the real reason why clanners dominate the CW map.

I have 21 clan mechs and 23 IS mechs... and I would think the clan propagandists would have played a few matches in IS mechs too, seeing and the game existed clan free for so long.

In saying that, yes the TW is an unholy power, but when I picked up the Wolverines in a sale I was in awe of their epicness. I average about 100dmg per match more in my TBR-Prime than the WVR-6k. About .2 better WR and K/D in the WVR though.

[XxXAbsolutZeroXxX]

[bad arcade kitty]

Mcgral18, on 20 August 2015 - 07:25 PM, said:

Just as I will laugh at you and the OP.

Also, why would I hide Tier 2? That's what I'm expecting.

i don't claim to be a super pilot
you do
and soon i will see if you are tier 1 or not

Ace Selin, on 20 August 2015 - 07:27 PM, said:

I think Stormcrows are more OP than Timberwolves (which certainly are great mechs). The Clan XL engine & their lightweight weapons really give the Clan mechs a big advantage

scrow probably benefits the least from c-xl than most of clan mechs, it would be very is-xl friendly

[Davers]

bad arcade kitty, on 20 August 2015 - 07:21 PM, said:

here is another thread about an is player playing timberwolf for the first time

http://mwomercs.com/...ble-timberwolf/

Stock Timberwolves are terrible. 2 LRM20s with 2 tons of ammo? Machineguns? And the laser loadout is very hot if you haven't Mastered the mech.

[Mcgral18]

bad arcade kitty, on 20 August 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

i don't claim to be a super pilot
you do
and soon i will see if you are tier 1 or not

Feel free to compare where you stand amongst 300 pilots:
https://www.mechstat...ry/PilotRatings

Not the same as PSR (which has unknown variables).

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scrow probably benefits the least from c-xl than most of clan mechs, it would be very is-xl friendly

Actually, it's one of the Clan mechs that benefits most from cXLs, as it has nearly a Stalker like CT. Very thin, and protected from the sides.


Is this why you think I'm cocky? That I actually understand how things work? You don't seem to, most of the time.

[Gas Guzzler]

bad arcade kitty, on 20 August 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

p.s. i will laugh for a while if mcgral18 will hide his tier or will be tier 3 or 2, he is probably the most cocky forum warrior

At least he isn't Gun Shy *drops mic*

[Xiphias]

bad arcade kitty, on 20 August 2015 - 07:24 PM, said:

p.s. i will laugh for a while if mcgral18 will hide his tier or will be tier 3 or 2, he is probably the most cocky forum warrior

I don't agree with everything Mcgral18 says on the forums, but credit where credit is due, he's solid pilot and generally knows what he's talking about. Unlike certain other people on these forums.