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[bad arcade kitty]

Coolant, on 22 August 2015 - 01:53 PM, said:

never understood why anyone would like Conquest. There are plenty of other games where you can stand on a plot of land to claim it. I prefer fighting.

- conquest is the least deathblob-y game mode and gives you plenty of possibilities to fight 1v1 or in small groups (lance skirmishes)

- conquest has an alternative way to win if your team cannot kill all the enemies

- conquest has an alternative way to win and you shouldn't look for the last enemy for several minutes/flee from the enemy for several minutes till the timer ends

Spoiler

(happened to me *twice* yesterday in just 8 skirmishes or even less, on both sides, no rule breaking too, in the first case they didn't betray the position of their dcer and we couldn't find it on the forest colony and in the second case me and ebj without ammo fled and hid from their last nova... that's bs, i don't want to play a gamemode like that; also it happened once in 8 assaults again yesterday, the last ammo less enemy went to cap, our last ammo less went to fool around, enemy didn't have the time to cap, conquest doesn't have that bs too)

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 22 August 2015 - 04:04 PM.

[Spr1ggan]

spectralthundr, on 22 August 2015 - 01:04 AM, said:

Euros like their camping. I thought this was pretty well known already.

Not all of us, but yeah it is a sad state of affairs.

[SolarCleric]

I'm a NA player and I like all the modes but assault....I would even like that mode if pilots would actually defend their dang base from time to time.

[Satan n stuff]

Random Carnage, on 22 August 2015 - 03:00 PM, said:

Are you 12?

Are you going to address the argument directly? If not then I have nothing to say to you.

[Nothing Whatsoever]

Lets see who knows.

Aussie Aussie Aussie

[spectralthundr]

Iqfish, on 22 August 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

You mean we like winning

If by winning you mean waiting til you're down 5 mechs to actually engage, than yeah I suppose that's some form of "winning"
The bottom line is you rarely win if you don't at the very least shoot at the enemy team, and someone has to do it first to either engage, or pull enemies into the open. Sitting in a spawn point, or hiding behind a building or hill for 8 minutes, isn't what I'd consider much fun in a shooter.

Edited by spectralthundr, 23 August 2015 - 02:52 AM.

[KharnZor]

Praetor Knight, on 23 August 2015 - 02:45 AM, said:

Lets see who knows.

Aussie Aussie Aussie

oi oi oi

[Troutmonkey]

bad arcade kitty, on 22 August 2015 - 08:45 AM, said:

oceania conquest has the best reward, sonic boom warhorn

That could actually make sense. I never factored that in.

[Escef]

Coolant, on 22 August 2015 - 01:53 PM, said:

never understood why anyone would like Conquest. There are plenty of other games where you can stand on a plot of land to claim it. I prefer fighting.

Conquest forces you to fight. If you don't fight, if you try to hunker down and camp or play snipefest, you lose.

Edited by Escef, 23 August 2015 - 03:14 AM.

[El Bandito]

Escef, on 23 August 2015 - 03:13 AM, said:

Conquest forces you to fight. If you don't fight, if you try to hunker down and camp or play snipefest, you lose.

Not as effective motive to fight as the win condition solely relying on either yours or the enemy's destruction. Hence I love Skirmish.
What is best in life? To crush your enemy...

[Escef]

El Bandito, on 23 August 2015 - 03:46 AM, said:

Not as effective motive to fight as the win condition solely relying on either yours or the enemy's destruction. Hence I love Skirmish.
What is best in life? To crush your enemy...

Skirmish: The game mode of trying to figure out where the shut down 12th mech is.

[El Bandito]

Escef, on 23 August 2015 - 03:52 AM, said:

Skirmish: The game mode of trying to figure out where the shut down 12th mech is.

Except most of the time, his dead teammates will rat him out. Much better mode than losing the game because you teammates are dumb enough not to go back to base on time and let the entire time go wasted due to lack of rewards.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 August 2015 - 04:24 AM.

[Escef]

El Bandito, on 23 August 2015 - 03:54 AM, said:

Except most of the time, his dead teammates will rat him out.

The few times I played skirmish it wasn't that great. I prefer to keep it out of my selections. Personal preference and all that.

[Odium]

Troutmonkey, on 22 August 2015 - 12:02 AM, said:

Playing through the recent event I've noticed a trend: Australians like Conquest, Yanks like Skirmish. I'm not sure what this means, but it could be explained by or difference in mindsets when approaching games. Whether that's a good or bad thing I'll leave for other to decide.

I have all game modes ticked, as well as the US and Oceanic Servers.

Considering I see the same people across all the servers and many from EU and NA are just trying to complete the challenges I really doubt these mean anything.

[Sable]

I'm american and i prefer conquest. It encourages movement around the map instead of just murderballing like in other modes. Lance vs Lance combat is much more interesting than blob vs blob. And it's always so satisfying when one team refuses to split up and loses on points.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

I like skirmish over Assault because all the assault matches Ive seen lately are pure base rushes. Like as in the enemy actively looking to avoid us to get to the base faster.

Last time I was on Caustic, they went to the left, we went right, and neither team saw each other on their way to the base.

0s all around

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

So assault seems to be you either rush to base cap like the enemy or you base defend and play skirmish

[Troutmonkey]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 23 August 2015 - 10:49 AM, said:

I like skirmish over Assault because all the assault matches Ive seen lately are pure base rushes. Like as in the enemy actively looking to avoid us to get to the base faster.

Last time I was on Caustic, they went to the left, we went right, and neither team saw each other on their way to the base.

0s all around

Caustic is just poor map design, which leads to poor game play. The bases are so close that even assault mechs can cap, which means that if you try and go to defend cap you have to deal with an entire death blob instead of just a few lights / mediums

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Troutmonkey, on 23 August 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Caustic is just poor map design, which leads to poor game play. The bases are so close that even assault mechs can cap, which means that if you try and go to defend cap you have to deal with an entire death blob instead of just a few lights / mediums

This happens with Terra Therma as well but then the sheeple have a tendancy to go to the middle and if you go around theyre still in the middle when the game ends

[MechWarrior3671771]

"I wonder what the reasoning is behind the preference of conquest. Maybe oceanic players like a more tactical experience"

I'm NA and prefer Conquest. Several reasons:

1) more lance vs lance action instead of nascar murderball. And since I mainly play lights, its more forgiving. I round a corner and find 4 red team instead of all 12 at once.

2) you get to fight on parts of the map your rarely see in other modes. I got bored with the same old "take the hill" on Alpine or "take the citadel" on River City or "take the center" on Terra Therma, etc.

3) more tactics. You have to know when to cap and when to fight. I prefer to cap the easy close one first (then *maybe* the third) and then join the fight. Its more fun too because the nature of the mode means more flanking and rear ambush opportunities. And if I get crit too bad to engage effectively, I can always go back to capping.

I also have to say I prefer the Euro style of play - they are much more patient and deliberate. Too many of my NA matches start with 3 team mates dead in the first 2 minutes.

And I keep Oceanic checked. As payback for all the years they have dealt with ping and latency issues from connecting to the NA server. Plus, I get to experience the "perks" of being a light with a 280 ping