Assault Suggestions?
#1
Posted 23 August 2015 - 12:38 PM
What do you all think is the best assault class and why do you think so?
#2
Posted 23 August 2015 - 01:58 PM
So basically King Crab, Banshee, Stalker, or Battlemaster would be my suggestions.
#3
Posted 23 August 2015 - 02:19 PM
The Warhawk. Has massive amounts of free tonnage, absurdly good quirks, is under-estimated in battle by opponents and can carry some Direwolf-esque loadouts, while maintaining good manuverability.
The Banshee. Durable as all hell, with great hitboxes, sheildy arms and almost exclusively torso-mounted weaponry. Great for a pulse-laser boat.
The Executioner. Extremely mobile, with high speeds, MASC, Jump Jets and generaly good movement. It's a little short on tonnage, but when used well, it's extremely effective. Better for shorter-term engagements, strike + fade.
King Crab: Has some serious dakka potential only rivaled by the Direwolf. Generally pretty durable and very, very fun to play.
#4
Posted 23 August 2015 - 02:20 PM
EDIT: I came back when I realised you were thinking about a mastery pack. In that case I'd throw my vote for either the Stalker or Banshee bundles. I've not had experience with the Banshee beyond the old trial so I'm not sure how it goes, but from memory it's much swifter than a Stalker so it might be a smoother transition from most heavies. Just gotta be aware that you're now piloting one of the tallest mechs in the game. Otherwise if you're feeling brave enough to take the plunge into what is frequently called the hardest mech to use, go all the way and get an Atlas bundle
Edited by FreebirthToad18999, 23 August 2015 - 03:05 PM.
#5
Posted 23 August 2015 - 03:56 PM
Had a decent match with the Australians in HPG just now where I was doing pretty good til a Direwolf backed me into a corner and I forgot I had jump jets
Edited to add that I've mastered the Catapult A1C and fully elited the C1 and C4.
Edited by Chados, 23 August 2015 - 03:57 PM.
#6
Posted 23 August 2015 - 04:27 PM
Chados, on 23 August 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:
What do you all think is the best assault class and why do you think so?
the best class to learn brawling it's mediums
stormcrow if you don't mind clans, hunchback if you do (4g for ac-20, 4p for thousand med lasers and 4j for 2 overquirked lurm 10)
#7
Posted 23 August 2015 - 06:39 PM
After I got killed in the match I was just in I watched this guy in an Atlas D-DC totally wrecking faces in toe to toe standup brawls. No Circle of Doom. That thing took PUNISHMENT, and finally stood nose to nose with two Dire Wolves before finally going down. Now THAT is the gameplay that interests me.
Edited by Chados, 23 August 2015 - 06:40 PM.
#8
Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:18 PM
Chados, on 23 August 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:
After I got killed in the match I was just in I watched this guy in an Atlas D-DC totally wrecking faces in toe to toe standup brawls. No Circle of Doom. That thing took PUNISHMENT, and finally stood nose to nose with two Dire Wolves before finally going down. Now THAT is the gameplay that interests me.
Well, the medium is supposed to fight WITH the Altas. Let him tank the incoming dmg, and you help deal the outgoing dmg. i.e hide in the shadow of assaults. No need to do circle of doom... that is more the domain of lights, with speeds reaching 150 or so.
#9
Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:18 PM
The Crabs are not as good in the brawl, but a sniper or dakka crab can tear stuff apart at range like no other IS assault.
Banshees pretty solid choice, great at tanking damage, stalkers have also been mentioned.
#10
Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:21 PM
well... gargoyle or warhawk may be? they are decent as brawlers and are relatively fast
anyway i would better suggest to pick timberwolf instead (stormcrow is easier to brawl though, but yeah, it needs some moving... i sometimes forget where my legs face when i brawl :3)
Edited by bad arcade kitty, 23 August 2015 - 07:22 PM.
#11
Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:31 PM
I did try the trial Banshee. Liked it. Liked the trial Gargoyle better, though. Want GUNS and MISSILES. Lasers are cool, but they don't go BAM when you shoot them. Though I like PPCs.
#12
Posted 23 August 2015 - 07:36 PM
a agree with night thastus then, go warhawk
#13
Posted 23 August 2015 - 08:22 PM
Personally I love the Atlas D in a brawl. std350, 4ML, AC20, Srm6, Lrm10, ams.
Stalkers with std300, 4xLRM5, 4xMPL, and 2XLL are also very fun to play from both close and far ranges.
#14
Posted 23 August 2015 - 10:53 PM
Chados, on 23 August 2015 - 06:39 PM, said:
Seriously, hit me up, we'll drop some, and I'll show you what it can do. The BNC-3E is my best mech. I admit, it's light on the missiles, but trust me, it makes up for it.
~Leone.
Edited by Leone, 24 August 2015 - 09:40 AM.
#15
Posted 23 August 2015 - 11:36 PM
Leone, on 23 August 2015 - 10:53 PM, said:
~Leone.
I'm no pro, but I can guarantee you guys that Leone is right on this one. The BNC is a friggin TANK. Tons of torso mounted weaponry, and gigantic arms that can block shots from the other side of the moon. It is a terrifying mech, with astounding firepower, and tankiness. The wubshee is living testament to that.
It's also one of very few mechs that can really use an XL 400 properly.
#16
Posted 24 August 2015 - 12:07 AM
#17
Posted 24 August 2015 - 01:23 AM
Think about it.
Most medium Mechs got alphas between 35 and 50 dmg.
Your Banshee will give you ~100 CT Front armor.
2 alphas and its gone.
Since you won't get away with that thing your front armor can take about 3 to 5 alphas from enemy mechs if you are able to distribute the damage properly.
You won't meet single mechs most of the time so...yea do not facetank.
Brawling in assaults is seldomly a good idea.
In this game assaults are either high dps juggernauts that don't leave any possibility of returning fire effectively ( multiple UAC Direwhales or Kingcrabs ), have extreme frontload pinpoint dmg ( wubmaster, dual AC20 or dual GaussCrab/ Dire etc.) or try to mimik an oversized heavy i.e. beeing fast heavily armored with mediocre armament and good heat dissipation. ( Gladiator, Gargoyle, Battlemaster, Victor ) Again there are no "Tanks" in this game cause there are no "Healers" !
If someone says an Assault can soak a lot of damage he either got no idea how to play an assault or he thinks of stray damage. Once focused your Assault goes down as fast as any medium or heavy.
If you want to retain some of your mobility of your Catapults with a variety of possible loadouts I think the Battlemaster would be a fine choice for you. Once mastered you can downgrade your standart engine to 325 without loosing much speed, while keeping your engine heatsinks. It also carrys a 350XL engine most graciously giving you unexpected speed while still carrying lots of weapons.
Some Battlemaster loadouts:
BLR-2C; Like an oversized Thunderbolt. But its an lasermech so maybe not your choice.
BLR-1S
Since there is no great difference in your survivability if you put in an XL you may try 350XL 2largeLaser instead of the meds and additional heatsinks. Pretty "brawly" and it got some *fwoshh* ( BTW if LRMs would be viable weapons this would be one of your best LRM carriers )
BLR-3S; Its a bit niche and more a fun Mech but if you are able to track and target quick enough you teach those pesky lights and meds some lessons they'll never forget. Try not to run into other assaults with this. Timberbacks are nice and most "fast" heavys are also fair game.
BLR-GHE; In the first phase of your averange pug match fire your PPCs in chainfire at everything that shows up. dont use the lasers. You can maintain chainfire at a rate of 0.7 to 0.9 per sec for 50secs to 1.5 mins depending your map. Nobody I saw found that to be funny. You can do only 2 successive alphas without shutting down but you are able to move fast enough and with some weapon group management you will be able to keep this in check. Enemys are unable to turn away or twist divert effectively in most cases. Its my favorite mech in pugs atm cause environmental temp does not matter much. Not many damage but lots of kills.
BLR-1D; The Forkmaster is an old build that never stoped to work....in Pugs. You get a lot of damage out but not many kills. But it has some dakka for shooting around corners ( new river city or forest colony.....)
Edit: Misslemaster: Played this a lot when LRMs where still viable weapons but now ... in PUGs you may reap some dmg and money if you are lucky. Remember to keep moving and get your own locks.
Also sensorrange and targetretention module will help a lot since lots of puggies are to poor to afford whooping 6 mio for a stupid radardeprivation module.
Edited by The Basilisk, 24 August 2015 - 01:51 AM.
#18
Posted 24 August 2015 - 02:20 AM
Thanks, guys. I appreciate the feedback.
Leone, I'll take you up on that offer next time I see you online.
#19
Posted 26 August 2015 - 01:26 PM
Chados, on 23 August 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:
What do you all think is the best assault class and why do you think so?
IS: weaker guns, higher hardpoints, better quirks.
Stalkers- Lazor and/or SRM brawling. GREAT hitboxes for rolling damage.
Banshee- Lazor and dakka. SHIELD ARMS a go-go. M is good for laser poking/sniping. E is for Dakka. S is strange but does gauss+vomit pretty well for an IS mech.
Clan: Better guns, low arm mounts.
Direwhale. Slow as my dead grandma. But...50 tons for guns. If you can position and read Radar while fighting, you can whale.
Warhawk. Dire's little but faster brother. Even look the same. 32 tons for guns + nice quirks...BUT is squishy due to bad hitboxes. Poke at range for wins. Brawl with huge alphas for thrills.
#20
Posted 26 August 2015 - 01:36 PM
Chados, on 23 August 2015 - 07:31 PM, said:
I did try the trial Banshee. Liked it. Liked the trial Gargoyle better, though. Want GUNS and MISSILES. Lasers are cool, but they don't go BAM when you shoot them. Though I like PPCs.
Stalker Misery is one of the few viable heroes. You can run the 'Classic 40' AC20+2PPC-asymmetric load to deadside damage. With the proper skill it can tank like mad and peeks very well.
Warhawk can Dakka with a 30%cooldown+module but it is squishy and is a better striker than brawler. You can also put 4ASRM6 loadouts on it.
Dual UAC10 is also nice but thats range support. Dual Gauss. DualUAC20!!! watch that heat! 4ERPPC with cooling to match + TC for velocity + quirks for cooldown.
Sorry you no like lazors...Wubshee is classic. XL400 Wubshee is moar classic.
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