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Can Mwo Survive New Mm Problems And New Balance Pass?


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#21 Screech

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:14 PM

If it makes the OP feel an better I have read similar threads for years at this point.

#22 Hellcat420

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:19 PM

I have yet to see any problem with the matchmaker.

#23 KharnZor

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:22 PM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 26 August 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

In stead of Thinking that PGI is ganna Fail with the new Balance Pass, and Building Doubt,
why not Stay Hopeful and look to all the Good that has happened recently?(MechLab/MechSelect)

Why? That's not the job of a salty alt account

#24 Phashe

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:24 PM

Still love the game. BUT if they do not do a deep dive into new player experience and recruitment, it will do the sloooow deathmarch.... Hoping they get some sense there...

#25 Johnny Z

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:25 PM

I think a massive ban wave plus the big balance will cause quite a commotion.

#26 sycocys

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 02:54 PM

Well the matchmaker at least "was" working just fine for a week, whether it recovers from whatever they decided to do last night and apparently this morning we can only wait and see - but it if goes back to relatively balanced matches then its a non-issue.

The re-balance is a moot point even before they do it, they aren't re-balancing so much as just uber quirking the next swath of mechs to drive sales back up. If they actually cared about balance they'd break down their easiest solution gets implemented systems to targeting/locking, information sharing, pilot skills, modules, heat and energyand build a system that is actually capable of being balanced.

So end of day nothing really new is going to happen, just going to see a different set of superman quirked mechs that have been underselling and MM that will continue to sometimes feel like you are diving off a cliff blindfolded.

Edited by sycocys, 26 August 2015 - 02:55 PM.


#27 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:19 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 26 August 2015 - 11:07 AM, said:

What are the MM problems and why will the balance pass cause a mass exodus. When was the last mass exodus and what was it caused by?


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Sorry; that doesnt read "thriving player base" to me

And CW is a ghost town - unless you were expecting two plus hour queues to be normal.

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 26 August 2015 - 03:20 PM.


#28 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:23 PM

View PostEl Bandito, on 26 August 2015 - 11:41 AM, said:


Lets worry about it when the time comes. No need to add grey hairs over something that we have no specific detail on.


The CU/NPE will be fine

#29 Bilbo

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:33 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 26 August 2015 - 03:19 PM, said:



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Sorry; that doesnt read "thriving player base" to me

And CW is a ghost town - unless you were expecting two plus hour queues to be normal.

You are right. It reads: not enough people playing in groups. Not sure what it says about the player base in general.

#30 sycocys

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:51 PM

I prefer playing with my unit/friends when they are online. Even if its only 1 or 2 of them and we keep getting dropped against some really good teams. The group matches are almost always quite challenging matches and a lot of fun, unfortunately most of them have begun to wander off to games that develop at a more reasonable pace.

#31 Narcissistic Martyr

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:04 PM

Oh mwo survived the LRMpoccalypse exodus, the ECM BS exodus, the Clan prices are fracking ******** exodus... the woops we didn't do a damn thing in 2013 exodus... so it'll survive this one.

Problem is, most of the old player base and founders are simply gone. Some like me come and go depending on how pissed we are (fracking cheeto leg structure quirks...) but still play.

However, right now, at this moment, mwo is the best it has ever been. Hit reg more or less works consistently if you have sub 150 ping, weapon balance isn't abysmal (hell even clan vs IS tech isn't horrible if quirks are applied), sure the player base is small and basically no one plays CW because of the wait if you aren't in a 12 man (and that you'll just get stomped if you aren't in a 12 man). Over all though? Other than a few balance issues (fracking cheetos, timbies, and storm crows) the game's pretty damn good. Most importantly, I'm having fun.

#32 Jack Booted Thug

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:07 PM

View PostPoisoner, on 26 August 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

You have issues man. Last night all you did was doom and gloom over all chat for a whole match.



Uh, that's pretty much what he does 90% of the time. The other 10% he is quiet, afk I suspect.

#33 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:10 PM

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 26 August 2015 - 03:19 PM, said:


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Sorry; that doesnt read "thriving player base" to me

And CW is a ghost town - unless you were expecting two plus hour queues to be normal.


I just took it to mean for every Tier 1-2 average group there are a lot more Tier (4-5) average groups, so its hard to make matches with that if you strictly eliminate the ability for Tier 4 groups to be in the same match as a Tier 1 group.

#34 MechaBattler

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:15 PM

I actually started laughing at this question. The game has survived far worse and under the constraints of a publisher that didn't seem to know what it's job was. The PPC-Warrior Online. The LRM apocalypse and any variant there of. When people were bowling for mechs during the collision implementation. The incredible rage at the implementation of 3rd person, brought on more by their denial of it being in the same queue as first person. Which in the end they nerfed it so it wouldn't bring as huge an advantage as it does in games like DayZ.

PSR will probably be blamed for bad matches for the foreseeable future. The rebalance I think will be like a band-aid. It'll piss off the people whose "favorite" thing gets nerfed. But like the meta of days past, people will find a new meta, and tout it against the old meta. We'll all move on with our lives. Hopefully bringing the gap between mechs closer.

#35 MauttyKoray

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:17 PM

Everyone complaining about MM right now is mostly wrong, so they really need to just sit back and wait. The new system, as well as CW being taken out of the factoring, will need time to adjust. No system can 'instantly' adjust to the player base, but these 'whiners' don't want to even try to understand, they just think it should work now and be perfect.

-rolls eyes-

#36 Void Angel

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:19 PM

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Oh look - another obvious alt "innocently worrying" that "another" "mass exodus" will occur - despite having no access to the data that would let him know there even was such a "mass exodus."

Point and laugh, boys. Point and laugh.

#37 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:22 PM

its another instance of,

PGI- we've added/Changed something to Enhance the Play Experience of our Players!
-it may take a couple weeks to settle in, so please be patient wail everything gets settled in,

QQPlayer/DoomSayerPlayer- the MM IS Broken, all my Matches Suck, the Patch was Yesterday WTF!!!,
-Why Cant PGI make something in MWO that works Right when i want it to, with no Problems in it at all Ever,
-All i want is for PGI to Make MWO how I think it should be Exactly in My Mind, PGI READ MIND NOW!!!

#38 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:24 PM

View PostBilbo, on 26 August 2015 - 03:33 PM, said:

You are right. It reads: not enough people playing in groups. Not sure what it says about the player base in general.


Yeah.... Theres a term for that, ostrich

#39 Kjudoon

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:29 PM

MWO is shaky?

http://youtu.be/coDtzN6bXAM

Perception is more powerful than reality most times.

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:34 PM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 26 August 2015 - 11:29 AM, said:

In stead of Thinking that PGI is ganna Fail with the new Balance Pass, and Building Doubt,
why not Stay Hopeful and look to all the Good that has happened recently?(MechLab/MechSelect)


Because some of us have been around this game long enough to know better.





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