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[Bishop Steiner]

Appogee, on 28 August 2015 - 08:27 AM, said:

That's from The Thunderbirds first episode.

Supersonic airliners who have lost their landing gear land their nose and both wings simultaneously on three of these.

It skid steers - it doesn't need any x-axis movement in any wheels.

yup. Used skid steer skip loaders plenty..... tires last a long stinking time, and are sturdier drive train wise.

[Bongo TauKat]

00ohDstruct, on 27 August 2015 - 06:18 PM, said:

How in the hell could you see through all of the Auto Detect (NO) monitors to see that... thing?

Off topic. If we are complaining about this then I ask why do all the new mechs have those if nothing is on them?

[Lostdragon]

I would say if anything the top half of this vehicle is odder than the bottom. I remember seeing it when CS first came out and thinking "WTF is that supposed to do?" The cab sticks over the gap between the front wheels, the arm is oddly articulated, and the attachment on the end of the arm looks like a platform from a cherry picker (sort of). It would kind of make sense if it was an excavator or something but it does not appear to be set up to dig. It does not have a hook or chain like a crane would be expected to have, just sort of a flat piece on the end of the arm. It does not look like it could pick up ordnance or cargo, so I am really not sure what it is supposed to do even when we see the whole contraption.

[stjobe]

Lostdragon, on 28 August 2015 - 09:00 AM, said:

I would say if anything the top half of this vehicle is odder than the bottom. I remember seeing it when CS first came out and thinking "WTF is that supposed to do?" The cab sticks over the gap between the front wheels, the arm is oddly articulated, and the attachment on the end of the arm looks like a platform from a cherry picker (sort of). It would kind of make sense if it was an excavator or something but it does not appear to be set up to dig. It does not have a hook or chain like a crane would be expected to have, just sort of a flat piece on the end of the arm. It does not look like it could pick up ordnance or cargo, so I am really not sure what it is supposed to do even when we see the whole contraption.

It seems to be sized well enough to possibly be lifting ammo up into 'mech torso/head ammo bins. Ammo weighs a ton, or so I've heard

[Lostdragon]

stjobe, on 28 August 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

It seems to be sized well enough to possibly be lifting ammo up into 'mech torso/head ammo bins. Ammo weighs a ton, or so I've heard

It's not a question of weight ratios, it is a question of grip! A flat attachment could not grip 1 ton of ammo, and don't even suggest it is attached with a strand of creeper!

[Tom Sawyer]

Perhaps these things migrate.

[Gaussfather]

Kiiyor, on 27 August 2015 - 04:33 PM, said:

MECH SKATES.

MECH SKATES!!!!




MECH SKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATES!

SO AWESOME! LOL

[LordBraxton]

Why is the construction equipment so small?? These mechs look 30 meters tall... I am not bothered by the design, but the scaling does suck. I feel like Im a man in a mech costume stomping around terrain that is scaled way too small. The scale is off in every possible way. I love the new tutorial though!

[Boulangerie]

Lostdragon, on 28 August 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

It's not a question of weight ratios, it is a question of grip! A flat attachment could not grip 1 ton of ammo, and don't even suggest it is attached with a strand of creeper!

Well it wouldn't be "gripping" anything. Stick a metal bar through a metal bracket and lock into place. That's not falling off at all. If you have gripping hands, even though they could be pretty strong, you still run the risk of it dropping...ammo explosion!

That said, I didn't actually look at the "crane" to verify if this is what I'm picturing.

[Lostdragon]

Boulangerie, on 28 August 2015 - 09:34 AM, said:

Well it wouldn't be "gripping" anything. Stick a metal bar through a metal bracket and lock into place. That's not falling off at all. If you have gripping hands, even though they could be pretty strong, you still run the risk of it dropping...ammo explosion!

That said, I didn't actually look at the "crane" to verify if this is what I'm picturing.

I always find that ignorance is the easiest position from which to make any statement.

[Tennex]

JohnnyWayne, on 28 August 2015 - 06:30 AM, said:

Well ladies, I have to end this dicussion. I found what it is:

CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

I guess it functions something like this




its only the bottom pieces of something functional. Maybe thats why it didnt make any sense. I guess we found where the windows and doors were

Edited by Tennex, 28 August 2015 - 10:19 AM.

[Dino Might]

Lostdragon, on 28 August 2015 - 09:27 AM, said:

It's not a question of weight ratios, it is a question of grip! A flat attachment could not grip 1 ton of ammo, and don't even suggest it is attached with a strand of creeper!

But what if it was an African Load Lifter?

[Dino Might]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 August 2015 - 08:47 AM, said:

yup. Used skid steer skip loaders plenty..... tires last a long stinking time, and are sturdier drive train wise.

I did some google-fu and now know what you're talking about. Tires last a long time because you are more often using them on dirt. If you use them on sticky tarmac, maybe not so much, but you can obviously just get thicker tires, and rubber is relatively cheap.

It makes sense for a self-propelled, slow-moving (relatively) lifter with high load factors to use such a system, but as a trailer, the design absolutely blows.

I don't know about the drivetrain they use. I can see some possible designs having significant benefits and major weaknesses. Now you've booked my weekend free time...

Edited by Dino Might, 28 August 2015 - 10:37 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dino Might, on 28 August 2015 - 10:33 AM, said:

I did some google-fu and now know what you're talking about. Tires last a long time because you are more often using them on dirt. If you use them on sticky tarmac, maybe not so much, but you can obviously just get thicker tires, and rubber is relatively cheap.

It makes sense for a self-propelled, slow-moving (relatively) lifter with high load factors to use such a system, but as a trailer, the design absolutely blows.

I don't know about the drivetrain they use. I can see some possible designs having significant benefits and major weaknesses. Now you've booked my weekend free time...

actually, I used them for 7 years of asphalt paving, mostly on pavement. We had t change the tires ONCE in the 7 years I was there, despite being run almost daily, 8-12 hours a day.,

The drive train is really not too dissimilar to what is used in tanks, on basic principal.

Also I believe we've already determined it's not a trailer, but a multi use base chassis for commercial vehicles like cargo loaders, lifts, cranes, etc.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 28 August 2015 - 10:41 AM.

[Boulangerie]

Lostdragon, on 28 August 2015 - 09:39 AM, said:

I always find that ignorance is the easiest position from which to make any statement.

Well, to be fair, I did go back and check it out after I posted. What I saw didn't contradict my ideas enough to make me come back and edit my post right away (which I totally would have if I was way off base).

[Dino Might]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 August 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

actually, I used them for 7 years of asphalt paving, mostly on pavement. We had t change the tires ONCE in the 7 years I was there, despite being run almost daily, 8-12 hours a day.,

The drive train is really not too dissimilar to what is used in tanks, on basic principal.

Also I believe we've already determined it's not a trailer, but a multi use base chassis for commercial vehicles like cargo loaders, lifts, cranes, etc.

Cool stuff. Thanks for the info and for making me better informed. I'm surprised that the tires hold up that well on the pavement.

[TLBFestus]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 August 2015 - 10:40 AM, said:

actually, I used them for 7 years of asphalt paving, mostly on pavement. We had t change the tires ONCE in the 7 years I was there, despite being run almost daily, 8-12 hours a day.,

The drive train is really not too dissimilar to what is used in tanks, on basic principal.

Also I believe we've already determined it's not a trailer, but a multi use base chassis for commercial vehicles like cargo loaders, lifts, cranes, etc.

ROOMBAS, you forgot Roombas.

[Revis Volek]

Now that im looking at it more...and the crane pic, the base reminds me of a Fork Truck i used to drive when i was a kid and worked at a Commercial Plumbing and Electrical Store....she was a beast.


Had like a 23' boom and could take entire stack/bundle (6 pcs in 5 rows) of 6" inch pipe off a truck no problem....just dont drop it. PVC acts like glass when its cold and i broke a few in the icy Northeast mornings we get up here.

But it looked just like this...Back tires are used for steering like most fork trucks because going backward with the load is much easier.

Edited by DarthRevis, 28 August 2015 - 11:35 AM.

[Tennex]

DarthRevis, on 28 August 2015 - 11:35 AM, said:

Now that im looking at it more...and the crane pic, the base reminds me of a Fork Truck i used to drive when i was a kid and worked at a Commercial Plumbing and Electrical Store....she was a beast.


Had like a 23' boom and could take entire stack/bundle (6 pcs in 5 rows) of 6" inch pipe off a truck no problem....just dont drop it. PVC acts like glass when its cold and i broke a few in the icy Northeast mornings we get up here.

But it looked just like this...Back tires are used for steering like most fork trucks because going backward with the load is much easier.

This gam eneeds fork trucks

[Tennex]

This thing was in MW4 on the snow map i remember