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[Andi Nagasia]

so What If S-Variant OmniMechs where Forced to take All their JJ?

by this I mean,
if you have a KFX-S it has JJ Locked JJ in both STs & Legs Regardless of Pods,
if you have a TBR-S it has JJ Locked JJ in its CT & both STs Regardless of Pods,
if you have a DWF-S it has JJ Locked JJ in its CT & both STs Regardless of Pods,

Example= a TBR-S with an A-LT(E) would be forced to take 2JJ in that location,
so no matter what Pods you Put on an S-Chassis it would have Locked JJ,
naturally all S-Pods that Have JJ would Retain their locked JJ,

Why do this? it would give S-Variants more Use as Making the S-Chassis a JJ Chassis,

Thoughts, Comments, Concerns?
Thanks,
Edit-

Edited by Andi Nagasia, 08 September 2015 - 06:33 PM.

[El Bandito]

If only JJs were made useful without poptarts exploiting it, then I would like this idea more.

[Kira Onime]

Make JJ somewhat useful for other anything than softening a jump and maybe we can consider.

[Andi Nagasia]

El Bandito, on 08 September 2015 - 06:40 PM, said:

If only JJs were made useful without poptarts exploiting it, then I would like this idea more.

i dont see KFX or DWF having that Problem so its all the TBR,
But with how Heavies Jump i dont see TBR Pop-tarts as being much of a problem,

[Lostdragon]

JJ should not be locked on any omnimechs. It would help a lot of underperforming chassis to be able to get rid of the multiple tons of hover jets.

[Poisoner]

Andi Nagasia, on 08 September 2015 - 06:30 PM, said:

so What If S-Variant OmniMechs where Forced to take All their JJ?

by this I mean,
if you have a KFX-S it has JJ Locked JJ in both STs & Legs Regardless of Pods,
if you have a TBR-S it has JJ Locked JJ in its CT & both STs Regardless of Pods,
if you have a DWF-S it has JJ Locked JJ in its CT & both STs Regardless of Pods,

Example= a TBR-S with an A-LT(E) would be forced to take 2JJ in that location,
so no matter what Pods you Put on an S-Chassis it would have Locked JJ,
naturally all S-Pods that Have JJ would Retain their locked JJ,

Why do this? it would give S-Variants more Use as Making the S-Chassis a JJ Chassis,

Thoughts, Comments, Concerns?
Thanks,
Edit-

Not even close to being fair. Leave clan mechs alone and give IS advanced tech.

[Wyest]

Not seeing many upsides here.

You're locking a lot of tonnage on those S variants to not much purpose, just to make them "jumping" ones. That limits what you can do with it more than anything else, because the number of viable builds drops.

You buff a handful of energy builds and that's all. Ballistic and Missile builds still do the tonnage dance, and lose more than they gain.

[bad arcade kitty]

what if all inner sphere battlemech chassis which can equip jj were forced to always equip all those jj
it surely would increase the build diversity making them jj chassis

Edited by bad arcade kitty, 08 September 2015 - 07:14 PM.

[Burktross]

No thanks. Leave my Kit Foxes alone!

[Pjwned]

I don't understand how this wouldn't be circumvented by selecting different omnipods, like what people do already to avoid extra jumpjets they don't need.

[Khobai]

IS mechs can equip less than the max number of jumpjets. So why would you force clan mechs to equip the max amount? Thats horribly inconsistent.

The only way it would be fair is if you forced all mechs, both clan AND IS, to take their max jumpjets, and if they take less than the max they cant jump. Thats kindve prohibitive and dumb though...


I think a better and fairer approach would be to allow non-S omnipods to remove thier jumpjets. But force the S-omnipods to have locked jumpjets.

That would allow clan mechs like the Executioner to remove their jumpjets. Because it doesnt use S-omnipods. But other mechs like the Timber Wolf-S and Daishi-S would have locked jumpjets. Because its kindve unfair to the Executioner thats its JJs are locked while the Timberwolf can remove its JJs simply by changing its omnipods around.

In all fairness if the Timberwolf can dump its JJs by swapping omnipods the Executioner should be able to dump its JJs simply by removing them.

Edited by Khobai, 08 September 2015 - 08:23 PM.

[Andi Nagasia]

Pjwned, on 08 September 2015 - 07:55 PM, said:

I don't understand how this wouldn't be circumvented by selecting different omnipods, like what people do already to avoid extra jumpjets they don't need.

J in S-pods would still be locked,
BUT in this case if you took a TBR-S you would have the 5Locked JJ(2LT/1CT/2RT),
regardless of any pod you place on it, so an TBR-S with an ALT would have JJ locked in there,

[Lightfoot]

I don't use S-variants, they are forced to take their JJets. MWO doesn't allow Jump Jets.

These are Battle Tech Jump Jets.



Battle Tech Jump Jets not allowed because too many players don't know how to counter them. Once you are countering a mech's jump-jet ability with your attack, the jump jets are a liability due to their payload requirements so it evens out nicely, but MWO just removed jump-jets and installed hover-jets instead so players would not need to learn tactics.

I see what you are saying, but MWO suffers from too many nerfs already.