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FupDup, on 17 September 2015 - 07:53 PM, said:
The 7K isn't a missile variant.
Stock build: TBT-7K
That variant doesn't look like an LRM boat to me, or even a missile boat in general.
Stock build: TBT-7K
That variant doesn't look like an LRM boat to me, or even a missile boat in general.
A point I addressed later in my post. You should have read the full post before replying.
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Do you not remember this game's metagame history?
The Trebuchet was poop when it first arrived, always has been poop and always will be. If you delete ECM it will still be lacking.
The Trebuchet was poop when it first arrived, always has been poop and always will be. If you delete ECM it will still be lacking.
It didn't get to enjoy the missile splash bug (from what I remember anyway). Trebs with LRMs have had a few moments since then but recent memory has seen an extremely difficult environment for LRMs.
That specific variant of the Trebuchet has always been fine, because as I stated already, it's pretty much a 50 ton Shadowhawk (sans jumpjets).
Also, I didn't say "delete ECM", I said make it MW4-esque.
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The Trebuchet was a bottem-tier mech before quirks existed. It was known as the worst medium in the game until the Vindicator came along to contest that title.
Going on a soapbox crusade against quirks won't save the mech, because it's poorly designed at its very core.
Going on a soapbox crusade against quirks won't save the mech, because it's poorly designed at its very core.
I strongly disagree. That initial tiering system was a totally subjective mistake that should never have been used to make official game changes. And the Vindicator would be fine in the current meta if it too had been blessed with super quirks - unfortunately PGI kept the quirks somewhat sensible on the thing....
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In fact, quirks are the only thing that can attempt to counteract a mech's innate design flaws, other than redesigning the mech from the ground up to function nothing like it did in Battletech.
Absolutely untrue and misguided thinking at its core. Design features, not flaws. Trebuchets should be your go-to 'Mech for a 50-ton missile boat. Missile boats right now tend to suck, miserably, and the Trebuchet especially doesn't have the quirks to remain competitive in spite of being a missile platform.
The "unique" variant, the ballistic-minded 7K, was & is as perfectly viable as the Shadowhawk-2H 2xAC-5 & LPL/PPC build was pre-quirks. It does not need quirks to become magically more effective than it is.
And as I suggested, if you removed weapon quirks entirely, fixed ECM, and fixed how LRMs work, you'd be leveling the playing field by a great margin so that 'Mechs like the Trebuchet can have a place again.
Deathlike, on 17 September 2015 - 08:06 PM, said:
I didn't think that was possible, but it's a perfect KO.
He's pro-clan, thus he's oblivious to bad IS mechs.
Would be nice to fix the Raven's leg hitboxes so it wouldn't need more internal structure for the leg, but that's Lostech.
He's pro-clan, thus he's oblivious to bad IS mechs.
Would be nice to fix the Raven's leg hitboxes so it wouldn't need more internal structure for the leg, but that's Lostech.
Nonsensical affirmation, an oblivious lie (I own more IS mechs than I do Clan ones), and a gross misinterpretation of the history of the Raven in MWO and the various situations at one time or another that prompted changes with it.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
