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#1 Lily from animove

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 12:54 PM

Post your match scores and if it was a win/loss and if that upped or downed you.

This way we can figure out at which values you get up, stay or sink.
The arrow is shown in the player stats summary.

so far I had:

a 468 win giving me an up.
a 241 loss giving me a down.

Edited by Lily from animove, 22 September 2015 - 01:19 PM.


#2 LORD ORION

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 12:58 PM

Event definetly downed me
I'm gussing I was in the lower end of T1 and couldn't get my points, so I had to intentionally bomb by playing bad until I started seeing unfamillliar players.

Then I could go gladiator and start getting 600+ damage games without getting blown to bits.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:00 PM

View PostLORD ORION, on 22 September 2015 - 12:58 PM, said:

Event definetly downed me
I'm gussing I was in the lower end of T1 and couldn't get my points, so I had to intentionally bomb by playing bad until I started seeing unfamillliar players.

Then I could go gladiator and start getting 600+ damage games without getting blown to bits.


While my K/D went up for the event, my match scores remained dismal most of the time. It's hard to fight when three of your teammates disco right off the bat! As a result, I think the Event sank my PSR a good bit too.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:00 PM

haven't taken screens, but a heavy loss ( like 50 damage or so) got me down one pixel. So it moves rather fast, or at least it looks that way.

Edited by 627, 22 September 2015 - 01:00 PM.


#5 Brody319

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:06 PM

I got 2 kills 3 assists, like 300-400 damage in my cheetah and it said my skill group went "="

#6 Kira Onime

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:11 PM

View PostBrody319, on 22 September 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

I got 2 kills 3 assists, like 300-400 damage in my cheetah and it said my skill group went "="


win or loss?

#7 Lily from animove

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:21 PM

View Post627, on 22 September 2015 - 01:00 PM, said:

haven't taken screens, but a heavy loss ( like 50 damage or so) got me down one pixel. So it moves rather fast, or at least it looks that way.


thats not fast at all, given how many pixels there are, you would need hundreds of bad matches or good ones to actually drop or raise in tier.

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:23 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 22 September 2015 - 01:21 PM, said:


thats not fast at all, given how many pixels there are, you would need hundreds of bad matches or good ones to actually drop or raise in tier.

My 1337 photoshop skillz told me there are 240 pixels on that bar. I still consider that fast.

#9 Jesushupfer

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:26 PM

378 Matchscore, Loss, no change
197 Matchscore, Loss, PSR went down
600 Matchscore, Win, PSR went up

#10 Yellonet

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:30 PM

Hold on, are we sure that you gain/lose equally much from the same match score no matter what your psr score is?

#11 riverslq

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:32 PM

View PostYellonet, on 22 September 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Hold on, are we sure that you gain/lose equally much from the same match score no matter what your psr score is?


what is more of the determining factor then? win or a loss?
I think we need to see some low scores on wins (aka, spiders :P) and see how it changes things

#12 Lily from animove

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:35 PM

View PostYellonet, on 22 September 2015 - 01:30 PM, said:

Hold on, are we sure that you gain/lose equally much from the same match score no matter what your psr score is?


I don't think so. but we can at leats define the borders when it stops being a gain and when it starts being a loss.

at least my one match seemed to gave me 3 pxl up and the other 1 or 2 down only.

I wonder if the border for losing is at 300 where you may stop dropping.

Edited by Lily from animove, 23 September 2015 - 01:43 AM.


#13 Yellonet

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:41 PM

View Postriverslq, on 22 September 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:


what is more of the determining factor then? win or a loss?
I think we need to see some low scores on wins (aka, spiders :P) and see how it changes things

Yes, but without the current PSR score of the player it may not tell us anything.

#14 Brody319

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:41 PM

View PostKira_Onime, on 22 September 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:


win or loss?

Loss

#15 Sarlic

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 01:43 PM

I cant remember exact values but Atlas K 580 damage, 1 kill and a teamloss is no gain. No down either.

Will post tommorow screenshot.

#16 XX Sulla XX

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 02:03 PM

360ish damage and 2 kills in a loss and my PSR went down.
Tier 2 if that turns out to be part of it.

Edited by XX Sulla XX, 22 September 2015 - 02:17 PM.


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Posted 22 September 2015 - 02:07 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 22 September 2015 - 12:54 PM, said:

Post your match scores and if it was a win/loss and if that upped or downed you.

This way we can figure out at which values you get up, stay or sink.
The arrow is shown in the player stats summary.

so far I had:

a 468 win giving me an up.
a 241 loss giving me a down.

Up or down is going to be relative based on Tier.

A score of 300 might make PSR go up for a T5, yet make it go down for a T1.

So you need to know current Tier at the start of the match for the information to be useful.

#18 Throat Punch

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Posted 22 September 2015 - 02:11 PM

10+ matches so far, regardless of my damage done and other factors if i had a loss my PSR went down, if i had a win it went up.

I had a match were i had the 2nd highest match score with several scouting and hit and run and assists etc. out of all players and we lost but i had a down psr arrow. I had a win where i did 187 damage and had 2 assists with no other factors and it went up. So much for PSR being about the players skill if its factoring in W/L.

#19 Lily from animove

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 12:51 AM

View PostRoadkill, on 22 September 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Up or down is going to be relative based on Tier.

A score of 300 might make PSR go up for a T5, yet make it go down for a T1.

So you need to know current Tier at the start of the match for the information to be useful.


this is yet not confirmed,

to also include this, we would need the following data per match:

your tier you started the match with:
your score:
lost/win
up/down/stayed

But please give the real numbers here, anythign else is guesstimations and not science.

Edited by Lily from animove, 23 September 2015 - 12:52 AM.


#20 Thorqemada

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Posted 23 September 2015 - 12:56 AM

Winning seems very urgent - like i wrote in a different Thread - Sean Lang (Tier 1) got a Green Arrow for Matchscore of 106 in a won Group-Q-Match i saw on Twitch.

Imho that is ridiculous low!

PS - Proof at the ~25:30 mark for that matchscore and PSR increase:
http://www.twitch.tv/ngngtv/v/17255295

Edited by Thorqemada, 23 September 2015 - 01:05 AM.






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