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[Far Reach]

Hey folks, im an old mechwarrior 3 kinda guy.
I only just found this game a couple months ago (couldn't get living legends to work) and Im fairly satisfied with the mechanics and look of this game!

Gameplay is solid and the general lack of whining prepubessants is delightful.

-But-

There is no singleplayer in this "beta". Just a stand-in kind of training thing. That's ok, but not when you guys are raking in cash hand over fist... A year and more after release.
I KNOW people are buying your foolishly priced mechs/bundles.

I wanted a hugin, had 2 other ravens and I wanted that mastery thing. I had already sunk 15$ into the game for MC... and the huginn cost me 15 more.
After seeing the high prices for heavier chassis in the in-game store i went to the website for "more deals"...

Holy crap.
Who has THAT kind of money for a game like this? Who WANTS that kind of money for a game like this?
There are steam greenlight titles that come out better looking, better made and waaaay cheaper than this farce you call mechwarrior. Not to mention without a well-known license to lean on like a crutch, like you have.

I know you guys are ultimatley beholden to your shareholders (spits) but keep in mind - Money is evil.
Only sold out a little bit? Eventually you will be selling everything. Including yourselves.

To summarize:
Are you kiding me? Where the ^@&* is the singleplayer/co-op story mode?
Where are the normal incentives to keep one playing, besides paying?
This just feels like a visually blown up smartphone game.

[Makenzie71]

I don't think this game was ever meant to have a single player or story mode...and so far I've spent a pretty decent chunk of change and have gotten every dime's worth out of it.

[Peter2k]

Russ already mentioned PvE is gonna come eventually
That's quite a step up from last years no plans towards PvE content

On the prices
a hugging?
You know lights are fragile?

As soon as you're moving to rank 3 you'll be using it less and less I'd say (balancing always changes after all)
Hero mechs are in general not that great a deal
Maybe the mastery packs, but you should definatly know what kind of mech you want
Hell firestarter pack would be better if you're really into lights

I'd keep the MC for premium time to increase earnings

I've spent a butt load of money on this game and don't regret it, love MechWarrior and don't want to wait another decade to play
Also while I certainly would enjoy a story, nothing gets the heart pumping like a good 1vs1 brawl (should add Solaris)
Been playing since closed beta
Comes down to ~0,50$ or less an hour

And you can play for free, knowing many who do
What do you need to spent the money on if you don't want to?
Hero mechs are most of the times worse or if anything as good as free variants
The rest is early access to mechs and eyecandy

You should have seen the trial mechs back in the day, combined with not even a remotely fair matchmaking and a combined group and solo que made those walking coffins


Just keep onto you're money until you KNOW what you want
MC is on sale more times these days, Black Friday probably the next, maybe a Halloween sale
Also timber wolf hero is coming next month I think
That's a way more useful mech (clan omni pods)

Edited by Peter2k, 14 October 2015 - 08:38 PM.

[Durant Carlyle]

There was originally a bid to make MechWarrior 5, a single-player game with multi-player tacked on just like previous MechWarrior titles.

Publishers shied away like it had the plague. So the project was scrapped.

And now we have MWO, a multi-player only game. Some day in the next two or three years we might have a limited single-player campaign.

[Macc_]

Peter2k, on 14 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

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Most of what you said is irrelevant. Your own enjoyment has nothing to do with whether or not prices are reasonable, and doesn't change the fact that much of the content matches or exceeds the price of a full-blown title, often several times over.

Edited by Macc 1666, 14 October 2015 - 09:34 PM.

[Vellron2005]

I agree that the game is grossly overpriced..

I mean, let's see... 40$ for a Marauder pack witch gives me a few mechs, some cammo, and some tags in a free to play deathmatch multiplayer game,(which would in a regular FULL GAME be more like a multiplayer feature) or.. lets seee... 24,99$ for a FULL STORY game like DIABLO3 with addons?

Or.... oooh, 39,99$ for another FULL GAME... DragonAge:Inquisition?

Oh, and look, BOTH games have deathmatch multiplayer..

Yeah... not gonna buy that Marauder aaaany time soon..

Edited by Vellron2005, 15 October 2015 - 03:58 AM.

[Peter2k]

Macc 1666, on 14 October 2015 - 09:29 PM, said:

Most of what you said is irrelevant.
whether or not prices are reasonable, and doesn't change the fact that much of the content matches or exceeds the price of a full-blown title, often several times over.

like here?
you might need to read again mate
here is what I suggested

Peter2k, on 14 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Hero mechs are in general not that great a deal

Peter2k, on 14 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

I'd keep the MC for premium time to increase earnings

Peter2k, on 14 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

What do you need to spent the money on if you don't want to?
Hero mechs are most of the times worse or if anything as good as free variants
The rest is early access to mechs and eyecandy

Peter2k, on 14 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Just keep onto you're money until you KNOW what you want

Vellron2005, on 15 October 2015 - 03:53 AM, said:

I agree that the game is grossly overpriced..

well yes and no

the problem is that PGI orientates themselves not on normal AAA titles





same prices in world of ships like in WoT
the new rage or something


you can also buy the witcher 3, from GOG without DRM
which I have

and there's loads to do and fun to have
different game though isn't it?
completely different

Vellron2005, on 15 October 2015 - 03:53 AM, said:

I mean, let's see... 40$ for a Marauder pack witch gives me a few mechs

well
you're buying early access too
if you wait 2 or 3 months more you can buy them for C-Bills
sooo
everyone has at some point complained about the prices
all PGI did was change how mechs are released

they also sell childhood memories and nostalgia


is it too high?
yes
I don't love it either
but its the first mechwarrior title in a decade
you need to spent money?

Peter2k, on 14 October 2015 - 08:22 PM, said:

Just keep onto your money until you KNOW what you want

[Far Reach]

I appreciate all the comments made here, yay or nay.
Don't get me wrong, I'm having a blast most games, even with the ravens...
But once I switched up to a good 'ol Shadowcat things have gotten much more productive.
Clan 'mechs are terrifying! OMNIpods! The leg MASC is particularly unsettling when used right.

In short - Perhaps I should have started Medium insted of Light.(always did play medium better)
I also love the civility of this communtiy, makes it doubly worth sticking around.

[Peter2k]

Far Reach, on 15 October 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

I appreciate all the comments made here, yay or nay.
Don't get me wrong, I'm having a blast most games, even with the ravens...
But once I switched up to a good 'ol Shadowcat things have gotten much more productive.
Clan 'mechs are terrifying! OMNIpods! The leg MASC is particularly unsettling when used right.

In short - Perhaps I should have started Medium insted of Light.(always did play medium better)
I also love the civility of this communtiy, makes it doubly worth sticking around.

clan mechs are better in quite some ways
again if you want to increase earnings rather go for premium time which can be bought in smaller packages with MC

or don't really, just try to have fun playing
again the Timberwolf Hero is due next month I think

try some timber
it's fast as a (IS) medium, but packs more punch


prices are too high in the end
PGI can squeeze money since they sell nostalgia

hell marauder and warhammer, like urbie have been whined about since I remember
no wonder they want you to pay for it

[Bud Crue]

Uh, a few points in response to the OP:

Can I get the type of smart phone you have. Cuz if I could play games like MWO on a phone, I'd ditch my PC.

As to your bigger picture questions I think your own actions and acknowledgments are answer enough...
This game derived from the Battle-Tech table top game and the subsequent MW video games as you know via your reference to MW-3. At the moment it is the only game in town for a game based in the BT universe of giant stompy robots (mechs) (soon that will change...see the new Battle-Tech turn based game discussed elsewhere on these forums and its kickstarter campaign). Thus, supply and demand dictates that if you want to play a game in this world, you play this game...as you are. As mentioned above, if you don't want to pay for the game, you don't have to. But since you have already paid for MC and are considering a Huggin purchase...well, there ya go. Asked and answered by you.

If the game play is bad and the look/feel of the game is sub-par to you, I am not sure why you are considering the additional purchase. True for any game, no?

As to motivation to play and/or spend $: For me, I like the BT lore and it makes me feel young. I also like the community aspect of playing in groups using the TS server. But I also like, the game play for itself. It takes strategy and discipline (patience) to really do well. Its got a steep learning curve and most mechs playstyles are fairly unique. Every match is different. To me this game is like the golf stereotype: you might play 20 awful matches, but when you have one where everything clicks, it is a wonderful feeling and keeps me wanting more.

[Xetelian]

Costs are waaaay to damn high.

20$ for 3 lights in a bundle or 30$ for 3 clan lights and then 20-30 more for mediums and again for heavies and again for assaults. This is a bit ridiculous.

20$ for 3 heavies and 40$ for a special variant is really expensive. I could buy entirely new games on steam for that and get 100 hours out of the Witcher 3 before I even get 20 hours into an unbasic'd mech.

MC to GXP conversion should be triple what it currently is at the very least. Double conversion sales don't happen often enough.


I'm of the opinion that less = more. The lower you charge the more you sell so it could make up the difference between higher prices. At least that's the theory I'm subscribed too.

[Macc_]

Peter2k, on 15 October 2015 - 05:41 AM, said:

like here?
you might need to read again mate
here is what I suggested

<snip>

is it too high?
yes
I don't love it either
but its the first mechwarrior title in a decade
you need to spent money?

To me, those are money management tips and, again, do not counter the "prices are too damn high" main point of the OP.
But I have a feeling that's what you were going for in the first place, and you did address it in your second post, so I retract my statement for the most part.

As for the examples you cited, holy fucknoodles.

Edited by Macc 1666, 15 October 2015 - 02:43 PM.

[Makenzie71]

Macc 1666, on 15 October 2015 - 02:39 PM, said:

As for the examples you cited, holy fucknoodles.

What you don't think the $12,000 USD Wing Commander capital/command fleet package?

To be fair Roberts is shooting for a space/combat sim on part with WoW and the people buying them are helping him get closer to that goal. The game is absolutely beautiful and if you can get into any of the access programs it is worth playing with.

[Kerensky98]

You chumps got screwed. You realize it's Free-to-Play right?

I haven't paid for a single mech. I used Trial mechs till I could afford a Timby and built a few drop sets from there.

Although I'm tempted by the Warhammer for nostalgia's sake.