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Should All Mechs Come In Small Packs Like The Warhammer And Marauder?


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#1 XX Sulla XX

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:03 PM

Any one else rather see all mechs come in small packs like the Warhammer and Marauder?

#2 Simbacca

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:06 PM

YES

That way, as the customer I can choose exactly only the mechs I want.

#3 CtrlAltWheee

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:07 PM

I'm appreciating it.

The jump from $20 to $40 is a bit much for me. I think I get a better value forking over $80 for the IS packs. But if they keep the pricing for singular clan mechs that would be good. $120 per pack is too much.

Bought Marauder and feel my wallet opening for Warhammer. In a good way.

#4 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:08 PM

This would be preferable, though the larger packs offer some nice features like cammos that unlock across all chassis in the package and better total value. Urbanmech, Marauder, and Warhammer all offer a good specific value.

Edited by Nathan Foxbane, 01 October 2015 - 01:09 PM.


#5 FupDup

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:11 PM

These "small" packs are going to end up costing more money to catch 'em all than the traditional grabdeal format...

#6 Revis Volek

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:11 PM

Russ said they were changing the way they released them...

I think we will see 2 more unseens for a total of 4 packs rather then 4 mechs in one pack. I could be very wrong tho...

#7 Appogee

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:12 PM

Phoenix was $80 for 12 Mechs, and 4 of those Mechs were CBill-accelerated.

Now we're being asked to pay $20 for 3 Mechs ... and an extra $20 if we want an extra CBill-accelerated Mech.

Edited by Appogee, 01 October 2015 - 01:13 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:14 PM

NO!

While doing individual packs is better for the individual that only want one or two mechs out of a bundle like the Resistance mechs this is a massive price increase for those of us buying the top end packs to get all of the mechs. Not including the hero mechs going from $80 for the pack of four to $160 is a drastic loss in value.

Edited by WarHippy, 01 October 2015 - 01:16 PM.


#9 Simbacca

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:17 PM

View PostWarHippy, on 01 October 2015 - 01:14 PM, said:

NO!

While doing individual packs is better for the individual that only want one or two mechs out of a bundle like the Resistance mechs this is a massive price increase for those of us buying the top end packs to get all of the mechs. Not including the hero mechs going from $80 for the pack of four to $160 is a drastic loss in value.

Also a good point. Perhaps the option should be given to allow customers to "make their own pack" and provide a discount that way?

#10 Revis Volek

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:18 PM

View PostAppogee, on 01 October 2015 - 01:12 PM, said:

Phoenix was $80 for 12 Mechs, and 4 of those Mechs were CBill-accelerated.

Now we're being asked to pay $20 for 3 Mechs ... and an extra $20 if we want an extra CBill-accelerated Mech.



Still the same cost....

3x4=12

20x4=80

#11 Lorian Sunrider

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:24 PM

I'm enjoying the freedom to choose individual mechs at a cheaper price.

However, while I did it on impulse to buy the $40 dollar Marauder and the Hero on top of that, with the Warhammer I'm only going the base $20 and the Hero. Doesn't make sense, even with the bonuses to pay an extra $20 ($25 after currency conversion) for one more mech. The Hero unit I probably won't even do for all of them either, but I can't say no to Natasha.

#12 Fuggles

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:24 PM

its a lot cheaper and a better value than buying a-la-cart where you don't even get the preorder rewards and all that. I had no interest in most of the mechs in the resistance 2, I might have bought the mauler alone but not a-la-cart.

#13 WarHippy

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:25 PM

View PostSimbacca, on 01 October 2015 - 01:17 PM, said:

Also a good point. Perhaps the option should be given to allow customers to "make their own pack" and provide a discount that way?

Allowing people to buy into a tier and then selecting the mechs that come with it would be nice. I'm not sure what the ramifications would be, but I'm guessing the way they have been doing it with the packs subsidizes mechs that would otherwise not sell very well. All I know is this new system if they intend to keep with it is going to make me much more picky on the mechs I buy and ultimately will result in me spending less money one the game. Good news for me I guess not so much for PGI I suspect. The strong desire people have for the iconic Warhammer and Marauder has a lot of people overlooking the price inflation, but other mechs may end up having a harder time at it with these prices.

#14 Kira Onime

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:27 PM

Pack price needs to be brought down a notch.

40$ for collectors pack? No thank you.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:31 PM

View PostDarthRevis, on 01 October 2015 - 01:18 PM, said:



Still the same cost....

3x4=12

20x4=80

Except it really isn't.
I got 16 mechs(4 from early adopter resistence bundle) for $80 one of which in each weight class gave me a c-bill bonus.

Under the new system in order to get the bonus c-bill version I have to buy the $40 pack.
40x4=160

Not even close to the same cost/value.

Edited by WarHippy, 01 October 2015 - 01:33 PM.


#16 FupDup

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:34 PM

View PostFuggles, on 01 October 2015 - 01:24 PM, said:

its a lot cheaper and a better value than buying a-la-cart where you don't even get the preorder rewards and all that. I had no interest in most of the mechs in the resistance 2, I might have bought the mauler alone but not a-la-cart.

A la carte is a bad comparison because those prices are atrocious.

#17 Mighty Wings

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:43 PM

View PostWarHippy, on 01 October 2015 - 01:31 PM, said:

Except it really isn't.
I got 16 mechs(4 from early adopter resistence bundle) for $80 one of which in each weight class gave me a c-bill bonus.

Under the new system in order to get the bonus c-bill version I have to buy the $40 pack.
40x4=160

Not even close to the same cost/value.


I prefer the $20 package as it's basically a heavy mech a la carte with 30 days of premium time ($12) and pre-order bonuses. I don't have to put with paying money for a shadowcat or panther and get basically the same amount of mechs (Don't get the 4th order pre-order variants but let's be honest except for the enforcer and maybe the grashopper they were pretty pointless, clans especially due to ominpods)
For me and I'd imagine some other people, the c-bill bonus doesn't really matter.

I'd say a player on average makes 100k a match without pemium time and mech bonuses. So 30k a match bonus. 100 matches in that variant = 3,000,000 cbills. 200 = 6,000,000. Of the recent mech packages I bought, the Zeus Resistance is the most played c-bill bonus mech with 74. In fact, I only have one mech variant played with >200 drops (and I have around 7000 drops total).

If you're the type of person who plays 1000s of drops in one c-bill bonus mech, okay then this hurts you. I'm sure there are other people who don't really play their c-bill bonus mechs that much for it to matter

#18 Christof Romulus

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:43 PM

View PostSimbacca, on 01 October 2015 - 01:06 PM, said:

YES

That way, as the customer I can choose exactly only the mechs I want.

Yeah, like that Alacarte option they did! Oh ... wait...

#19 WarHippy

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:48 PM

View PostMighty Wings, on 01 October 2015 - 01:43 PM, said:


I prefer the $20 package as it's basically a heavy mech a la carte with 30 days of premium time ($12) and pre-order bonuses. I don't have to put with paying money for a shadowcat or panther and get basically the same amount of mechs (Don't get the 4th order pre-order variants but let's be honest except for the enforcer and maybe the grashopper they were pretty pointless, clans especially due to ominpods)
For me and I'd imagine some other people, the c-bill bonus doesn't really matter.

I'd say a player on average makes 100k a match without pemium time and mech bonuses. So 30k a match bonus. 100 matches in that variant = 3,000,000 cbills. 200 = 6,000,000. Of the recent mech packages I bought, the Zeus Resistance is the most played c-bill bonus mech with 74. In fact, I only have one mech variant played with >200 drops (and I have around 7000 drops total).

If you're the type of person who plays 1000s of drops in one c-bill bonus mech, okay then this hurts you. I'm sure there are other people who don't really play their c-bill bonus mechs that much for it to matter

Just because you don't care about the c-bill bonus, or other mechs than the one or two you wish to have doesn't change what I said. The price value is not the same for everyone.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:54 PM

I mean obviously you're correct in $/mech cost.
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Value on the other hand is subjective While you may not agree, I'm sure you can understand based on my explanation why the new system has more value to me than buying $80 packages. Giving me a collector mech adds little value to me.





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