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[PR1VATEER]

So we are getting the Marauder and Warhammer, can the Rifleman be far behind? Or the Phoenix Hawk?

http://brianscache.c...-rifleman2c.jpg

[Escef]

Asks about Rifleman, links to Rifleman IIC.

[ChapeL]

As much as I'd like the Archer next, they may have to throw our medium jocks a bone... or a new clan mech...

[SplashDown]

A new clan mech would be nice...I really like the rifleman BUT not unless it can fit 4 lrg pulse lasers or it wont be that good.

[Wintersdark]

mmmmmm Phoenix Hawk. Gimmie.

[xVLFBERHxT]

It has to be Marauder, Warhammer, ARCHER and Rifleman. In this sequence!

[EmeraldSongbird]

Forget the Rifleman, just give us the Longbow!

[Lykaon]

SplashDown, on 04 October 2015 - 07:59 AM, said:

A new clan mech would be nice...I really like the rifleman BUT not unless it can fit 4 lrg pulse lasers or it wont be that good.

At 60 tons it won't do it well. But there is a Rifleman variant (4D) that replaces all the stock weapons with a pair of PPCs. It is likely that since most heavy mechs have at least 6 hardpoints the Rifleman 4D will have 3 energy hardpoints per arm,that is if the 4D is used. Or you could use the Rifleman 2N and have a large pulse in each arm replacing the large lasers and another pair of large pulse lasers mounted in the side torsos replacing the medium lasers (I just prefer being able to aim all 4 at the same target so arm mounts seem better to me)

Over all a 4 Lrg Pulse Rifleman would be 250Xl 14 DHS 4 large pulse lasers and near max armor with a 36% heat efficency in the Smurfy mechlab.

As for new clan mechs, There are many non Omnimech options as well as omnimechs.

My opinions are

Assault omni: Turkina
Assault non-Omni: Kodiak

Heavy Omni: Night Gyr
Heavy non-Omni: Warhammer or Marauder IIc

Medium Omni: Black Lanner
Medium non-omni: Shadow Hawk IIc or Griffin IIc

Light omni: Fire Falcon
Light non-Omni: Locust IIc

Edited by Lykaon, 04 October 2015 - 12:07 PM.

[Victorion]

There is no reason at all to add the Rifleman.

What the hell do we need literally a slightly less advanced, almost identical Jagermech for?

Archer and Phoenix Hawk make infinitely more sense.

[Whatzituyah]

Victorion, on 04 October 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

There is no reason at all to add the Rifleman.

What the hell do we need literally a slightly less advanced, almost identical Jagermech for?

Archer and Phoenix Hawk make infinitely more sense.

Slightly less drop tonnage?

[Escef]

Lykaon, on 04 October 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

At 60 tons it won't do it well. But there is a Rifleman variant (4D) that replaces all the stock weapons with a pair of PPCs.

The 4D replaces the ACs and medium lasers with PPCs and heat sinks. It retains the LLs... It runs stupid hot.

[Oberost]

Victorion, on 04 October 2015 - 12:10 PM, said:

There is no reason at all to add the Rifleman.

What the hell do we need literally a slightly less advanced, almost identical Jagermech for?

Archer and Phoenix Hawk make infinitely more sense.

Because, you know, it's another iconic mech...

[Bishop Steiner]

well, once upon a time, I thought the idea was either 1 clan and one IS mech a month available, or alternating. Guess that never got past the idea stage.

I do dislike 4 months of one type or the other, as some of us really and truly do not care to play the other tech base.

Anyhow, for remaining HG Unseen, my order of "Do Want":

1) Phoenix Hawk. (I'm a medium guy, and this could be an Arrow on crack)
2) Longbow (Just be nice to have a ridiculous missile vomit mech)
3) Crusader (It's a missile boat, but well balanced, with dakka and pewpew too, even JJs on some)
4) Archer (see Longbow. Plus Archer-S is a beast)
5) Stinger
6) Wasp
7) Rifleman (I don't hate it, but we have it. It's called a Firebrand)

Of course, that is not counting Clan IIC Unseen. Which the RFL, WHM, PXH and MAD IICs are all very nice.

[1Grimbane]

I was always under the impression that the jager was an improved rifleman design, pretty sure that's the sarna info anyway so yeah... why give us a crappy rifleman when the jager can do it better? Give us the kodiak, madcat mk2, archer and the behemoth mk1 and 2, oh and how about a bushwacker (future mech blah blah blah who cares about timeline)

[Dino Banino]

Answer to your question: probably yes. When I saw that Marauder, I was like "WHAT WOULD BE THE ODDS IF THE WARHAMMER IS NEXT" and what'd'ya know.

Enough with Inner Sphere, though. It's time for Clan baby!

It isn't timeline canon, but I want to see the Cougar Light 'Mech or Blood Asp Assault 'Mech. *jumps up and down*

[Spheroid]

If you crunch the numbers you will find that sixty tons is not adequate for dual gauss. If you take away that you are just left with a giant Blackjack-1 or 1DC minus jets.

In the absence of quirks dual AC-5 just doesn't cut the mustard. Jager still rules.

Maybe AC-10 + 2x PPC + 255XL? However the Firebrand already has PPC quirks and if quirks are based on lore the Rifleman would be AC-5 and large laser quirked.

Edited by Spheroid, 04 October 2015 - 01:30 PM.

[Strum Wealh]

Lykaon, on 04 October 2015 - 12:00 PM, said:

At 60 tons it won't do it well. But there is a Rifleman variant (4D) that replaces all the stock weapons with a pair of PPCs. It is likely that since most heavy mechs have at least 6 hardpoints the Rifleman 4D will have 3 energy hardpoints per arm,that is if the 4D is used. Or you could use the Rifleman 2N and have a large pulse in each arm replacing the large lasers and another pair of large pulse lasers mounted in the side torsos replacing the medium lasers (I just prefer being able to aim all 4 at the same target so arm mounts seem better to me)

I would imagine that if PGI were to implement the Rifleman, they would chose among the RFL-3N, RFL-4D, RFL-3C, RFL-5M, and RFL-5D.

The RFL-1N & RFL-2N are non-standard tonnages (50 tons each) compared to the "standard" RFL-3N.
The Rifleman C is a mixtech variant, and probably isn't going to happen, given PGI's stance on "no mixtech".
Everything else is out-of-timeline until the early 3060s.

The inclusion of the 3N is a given, as it is the "standard" model.
The 4D and the 5D are both all-energy models. The 4D is the 3025-tech variant while the 5D is the 3050-tech variant; the latter upgrades to ER-PPCs & an XL Engine, and places two MLas in the CT (the only one of the timeline-appropriate variants to have CT-mounted weapons).
The 3C loses the arm-mounted energy hardpoints, and upgrades the ACs to AC/10s.
The 5M is a straight upgrade to the 3N, with identical base stats and minimum hardpoint locations.

I could see PGI using the 3N (as a balanced energy/ballistics variant), the 3C (as a ballistics-heavy variant), and the 5D (as an all-energy variant, and the only variant to have centerline weapons).

• Proposed RFL-3N hardpoints
  
  • LA: 2 energy, 1 ballistic
    
  • LT: 1 energy
    
  • RT: 1 energy
    
  • RA: 1 energy, 2 ballistic
• Proposed RFL-3C hardpoints
  
  • LA: 3 ballistic
    
  • LT: 1 energy
    
  • RT: 1 energy
    
  • RA: 3 ballistic
• Proposed RFL-5D hardpoints
  
  • LA: 2 energy
    
  • LT: 2 energy
    
  • RT: 2 energy
    
  • RA: 2 energy

A Hero Rifleman could be made in tribute of the "Bannockburn", the personal BattleMech of Davis McCall of the Grey Death Legion, with PGI exercising their creative license to create a unique loadout.

• Proposed RFL-DM "Bannockburn" hardpoints/loadout
  
  • LA: 1 energy, 1 ballistic (LLas, AC/2)
    
  • LT: 1 missile (SRM-4)
    
  • CT: 2 energy (x2 MLas)
    
  • RT: 1 missile (SRM-4)
    
  • RA: 1 energy, 1 ballistic (LLas, AC/2)

Thoughts?

[BourbonFaucet]

Strum Wealh, on 04 October 2015 - 01:57 PM, said:

A Hero Rifleman could be made in tribute of the "Bannockburn", the personal BattleMech of Davis McCall of the Grey Death Legion, with PGI exercising their creative license to create a unique loadout.

• Proposed RFL-DM "Bannockburn" hardpoints/loadout
  
  • LA: 1 energy, 1 ballistic (LLas, AC/2)
    
  • LT: 1 missile (SRM-4)
    
  • CT: 2 energy (x2 MLas)
    
  • RT: 1 missile (SRM-4)
    
  • RA: 1 energy, 1 ballistic (LLas, AC/2)

Thoughts?

We already have one Grey Death Hero, so I'd rather have Gray Noton's "Legend-Killer". But you made a good post!

[KuroNyra]

I think the logical choice would be the Arched. It's one of the main Iconic Unseen.

But yeah, I'm curious about the Phoenix Hawk.

[Bishop Steiner]

Techorse, on 04 October 2015 - 02:04 PM, said:

We already have one Grey Death Hero, so I'd rather have Gray Noton's "Legend-Killer". But you made a good post!

well, 2 Gray Death, Pirates Bane is GDL, too.