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[Paigan]

First, I wanted to post in this thread, but then I thought this is actually a thread on its own and maybe halfway interesting for PGI (as a player sample, not because of me personally)



The current state of my mechbay is:

- I have every Mech I want (~60). I play purely clans and even despite that I have like ~10-20 IS mechs. Just in case.
- CB are piling up (110 million despite decadently redundant module buying)
- I even don't know what to do with my MC (maybe a little camos, meh)

I don't have the primitive collector drives that so many people fall for ("OMG, if I have ALL the stuff, I will surely get the attention of others and/or some female to copulate" I sincerely pity those cavemen).

Needless to say that makes premium time implicitely useless as well. I need neither a CBs nor XP boost anymore.


I don't see me spending anymore money any time soon.
Not because I'm angry (oh wait: that too. One word: CHAT), but MWO offers me no reason to spend money.

Seeing offers like the one mentioned in the linked thread about getting a crappy Gargoyle B or some even more crappier Lostech mech (I already have the OP Thunderbolt mastered and I hope it gets nerfed hard) is boring at best, almost amusing.


I would love to spend money on things like:

- MC-crowd-funded content like new maps, new features like a proper skill system, maybe single player missions in the future. Basically everything except bug fixes (including the damn chat). Or maybe just a Kickstarter project from PGI for a single map. Why not.

- a proper replay function (NOT FRAPS, a replay function. Google it if you don't know what it is). Maybe even with a renting model of 1 MC per server-side stored replay or whatever.

- Mechs with MINOR quirks to give them a true character. Example: Mad Dog designed to be a missile boat with positive missile quirks, TBR getting negative missle quirks to properly distinct the two. So there is actually a reason to buy a Mad Dog. Another example: Warhawk getting some heat dissipation bonuses for being the "heat sink boat", at least in its HS-crammed left torso, but some appropriate maluses as well (to missiles, to ballistics, etc. because it's designed for energy weapons)


PGI fixating its income to (mostly) just new mechs might in the worst case mean to have failing income despite an active player base in the future.

Edited by Paigan, 06 October 2015 - 12:50 AM.

[Rushin Roulette]

[Kiiyor]

I want cosmetics. Different geometry. Different hand actuators. Different paint overlays - like the ones we're getting with the reward variants. More colours. MORE CAMO SPECS.

Bling for weeks.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Kiiyor, on 06 October 2015 - 01:14 AM, said:

I want cosmetics. Different geometry. Different hand actuators. Different paint overlays - like the ones we're getting with the reward variants. More colours. MORE CAMO SPECS.

Bling for weeks.

Kiiyor, on 06 October 2015 - 01:14 AM, said:

I want cosmetics. Different geometry. Different hand actuators. Different paint overlays - like the ones we're getting with the reward variants. More colours. MORE CAMO SPECS.

Bling for weeks.

Yep, open-ended custimization is key

[Speedy Plysitkos]

CUSTOMIZATION.... pgi...... why you throw money away with no options ? you have enough $$, pgi ?

[Kiiyor]

BLOOD WOLF, on 06 October 2015 - 01:19 AM, said:

Yep, open-ended custimization is key

Absolutely. The mechs in MWO are incredibly well designed, and are one of my favourite parts of the game. I'm at the point where I've already purchased most of the mechs I will ever need, and i'd much rather spend money personalizing them than shell out for new mech packs.

Cosmetics have been one of the more wildly successful earners in almost every FTP game, and IMHO, MWO would be no different if they were offered.

[Soultraxx]

In DDO they have a reincarnation system where your character starts from scratch but with a slight increase in a class skill.

Perhaps MWO could implement something on a per Mech basis where you go back to basic (keeping all MC, Cbills, modules etc) and level up again - when you reach Master again you get a 1% increase to a Module (or modules) or quirk or something each time.

The re incarnation could cost a decent amount of Cbills which 1) acts as a Cbill sink and 2) prevents new players from doing it until they have some time in game.
It would give every player something to aim for and keep the game open ended, if in a limited way.

It would need a lot more thought than I have written as Im in work posting from my phone.

[Paigan]

Rushin Roulette, on 06 October 2015 - 12:49 AM, said:

Not my point and you just act on your jealousy.
Having 60 mechs is hardly bragging in here.
Please try to understand my point.

[Sarlic]

Kiiyor, on 06 October 2015 - 01:14 AM, said:

I want cosmetics. Different geometry. Different hand actuators. Different paint overlays - like the ones we're getting with the reward variants. More colours. MORE CAMO SPECS.

Bling for weeks.

I asked it as most will remember in the latest vlog about different heads and such. De Koning was fairly excited about it.

I really hope it will happen though. More front-end customisation and more nice looks on the battlefield.

It's really shame and a terrible model when the mech pack sales become saturated because of:

1.) Too many mechs in your account, you don't know what to spend on.
2.) Marketing fail when you release or setup alot of different mech packs within a short period of time.
3.) The pricing of these packages are in my opinion still high.

It all boils down that people don't look further on them anymore. Some were excited about the Warhammer, so do i at a certain point. But things change if you feel it's more of a getting a crashgrab. Without going explicitely into the cashgrab but when PGI increases dramatically the frequency of mech pack sales while some of our current packages are not even finished / done yet it certainly feels geting into a cashgrab.

Edited by Sarlic, 06 October 2015 - 02:42 AM.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

Customizable homescreen + garage. Custom hud option. Camo patterns, decals. Tons of options....

[Mycrus]

Paigan, on 06 October 2015 - 12:34 AM, said:

First, I wanted to post in this thread, but then I thought this is actually a thread on its own and maybe halfway interesting for PGI (as a player sample, not because of me personally)



The current state of my mechbay is:

- I have every Mech I want (~60). I play purely clans and even despite that I have like ~10-20 IS mechs. Just in case.
- CB are piling up (110 million despite decadently redundant module buying)
- I even don't know what to do with my MC (maybe a little camos, meh)

I don't have the primitive collector drives that so many people fall for ("OMG, if I have ALL the stuff, I will surely get the attention of others and/or some female to copulate" I sincerely pity those cavemen).

Needless to say that makes premium time implicitely useless as well. I need neither a CBs nor XP boost anymore.


I don't see me spending anymore money any time soon.
Not because I'm angry (oh wait: that too. One word: CHAT), but MWO offers me no reason to spend money.

Seeing offers like the one mentioned in the linked thread about getting a crappy Gargoyle B or some even more crappier Lostech mech (I already have the OP Thunderbolt mastered and I hope it gets nerfed hard) is boring at best, almost amusing.


I would love to spend money on things like:

- MC-crowd-funded content like new maps, new features like a proper skill system, maybe single player missions in the future. Basically everything except bug fixes (including the damn chat). Or maybe just a Kickstarter project from PGI for a single map. Why not.

- a proper replay function (NOT FRAPS, a replay function. Google it if you don't know what it is). Maybe even with a renting model of 1 MC per server-side stored replay or whatever.

- Mechs with MINOR quirks to give them a true character. Example: Mad Dog designed to be a missile boat with positive missile quirks, TBR getting negative missle quirks to properly distinct the two. So there is actually a reason to buy a Mad Dog. Another example: Warhawk getting some heat dissipation bonuses for being the "heat sink boat", at least in its HS-crammed left torso, but some appropriate maluses as well (to missiles, to ballistics, etc. because it's designed for energy weapons)


PGI fixating its income to (mostly) just new mechs might in the worst case mean to have failing income despite an active player base in the future.

MC as a 'currency' is significantly devalued (via PGI's marketing decisions)... to the point that making MC content is less interesting... they have switched to the make content for 'packs' model...

Seriously don't buy MC... no point and i dont think they are interested in creating MC content that much anyway...

[KalRyan]

Spend your money https://www.kickstar...letech/comments here, op.

Edited by KalRyan, 06 October 2015 - 03:18 AM.

[El Bandito]

Rushin Roulette, on 06 October 2015 - 12:49 AM, said:

Edited by El Bandito, 06 October 2015 - 03:34 AM.

[Triordinant]

[zagibu]

They could remove the fusion reactors and replace them with coal furnaces that heat a water boiler! I heard something involving steam is planned, and this would make sense financially, because they could then sell coal for MC only.

[Johnny Z]

Triordinant, on 06 October 2015 - 03:52 AM, said:

Decals would be great. Really great I think. I am not excited about more mechs or add ons, or tiny parts there of. The Marauder aside.

Put the warrior in Mechwarrior for crying out loud. Make some content there. Some kind of an aversion to anything not mech or what? Still no pilot eject all this time? I will with great effort preemptively end a rant about the lack of anything not mech in this game.

Change the name to Mech.

Edited by Johnny Z, 06 October 2015 - 06:06 AM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

until the rebalancing, theres no reason to anyways

[RockmachinE]

You can gift me a mech!

[Cion]

feel free to send me a maurader or warhammer simple pack!!!

besides that, save your $$ and wait for something good and fun to spend it on, whether its a new mech you want, Faction cammos, decals, etc. Dont spend money on "meh" stuff or the game will also turn "meh".

PS: you can always turn XP to GXP and level mechs faster, buy consumables, run community contests, etc.

[Spheroid]

All this tells me is you spent too much real money when you could just used c-bills. The fact that you did use real money means you are on some level a collector or just impatient.

Poor planning.

Edited by Spheroid, 06 October 2015 - 07:10 AM.