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#61 Baba Yogi

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:05 AM

well it goes against any other medium mech in the game. Ofc ppl will like it, since its a medium with light profile something that was not in the game(maybe cicada but its even shorter than that). I'm talking about balance aspect of this, tbh it feels unnatural. I'll definately buy one when it comes for cbills and make it med-long range skirmisher/poker if size stays the same. I used to be a pretty good dragon pilot so i know you cannot make mechs like that a brawler.

#62 Imperius

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:17 AM

View PostLordhammer, on 07 October 2015 - 05:05 AM, said:

well it goes against any other medium mech in the game. Ofc ppl will like it, since its a medium with light profile something that was not in the game(maybe cicada but its even shorter than that). I'm talking about balance aspect of this, tbh it feels unnatural. I'll definately buy one when it comes for cbills and make it med-long range skirmisher/poker if size stays the same. I used to be a pretty good dragon pilot so i know you cannot make mechs like that a brawler.


Please be quite OP many have voiced mediums were too big since day one. PGI is finally listening and here you come along crying about it! OP is the reason this game can never have nice things!

I bet you run this game on a toaster too.

Edited by Imperius, 07 October 2015 - 05:18 AM.


#63 Nightmare1

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:24 AM

Given that most of the Mediums in this game are oversized, I'm happy to have one that's undersized.

Let's not ruin it, shall we?

#64 l33tworks

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:25 AM

I just saw a kitfox next to a crab. All I can say is lol. The crab makes the kitfox look like huge, hideous monstrous beast, and the crab is a medium, a kit fox is a light...

#65 Baba Yogi

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:27 AM

View PostImperius, on 07 October 2015 - 05:17 AM, said:

Please be quite OP many have voiced mediums were too big since day one. PGI is finally listening and here you come along crying about it! OP is the reason this game can never have nice things!

I bet you run this game on a toaster too.


Dude i am a medium pilot, almost exclusively ^^ Still doesnt change the fact that its smaller than it should be, how you feel is not a valid opinion in a discussion.

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:30 AM

If one more person COMPLAINS about the crab being small i'll puke.

#67 Speedy Plysitkos

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:30 AM

Dont touch the crabies..... !

Mine precious.

#68 Livewyr

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:36 AM

If you're in the crab.. that's great.

If you're in the 40-45 ton mech getting shot from around the crab... it's a bit insulting.

#69 pbiggz

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:36 AM

Seriously, people ***** (and rightly so) about how PGI can't make a good mech for ****, then the moment they make a good mech GD comes out of its hole and starts crying OP. This is psychotic and you know it.

#70 Jetfire

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:38 AM

No for once it is a medium that is actually sized right.

#71 Livewyr

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:38 AM

View Postpbiggz, on 07 October 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

Seriously, people ***** (and rightly so) about how PGI can't make a good mech for ****, then the moment they make a good mech GD comes out of its hole and starts crying OP. This is psychotic and you know it.


People said that about the Timber Wolf, too.... :P

#72 Mechteric

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:41 AM

A properly sized medium mech and people are complaining?!?

The problem isn't that it's too small, it's that most other mediums have been sized too big up till now and you've gotten used to that.

Edited by CapperDeluxe, 07 October 2015 - 05:42 AM.


#73 Imperius

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:42 AM

View PostLordhammer, on 07 October 2015 - 05:27 AM, said:


Dude i am a medium pilot, almost exclusively ^^ Still doesnt change the fact that its smaller than it should be, how you feel is not a valid opinion in a discussion.


Funny you're the only one wanting it bigger from me skimming the thread. Your opinion is invalid because the majority has spoken and says it's fine how it is. Have a great day!

#74 Baba Yogi

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:45 AM

View Postpbiggz, on 07 October 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

Seriously, people ***** (and rightly so) about how PGI can't make a good mech for ****, then the moment they make a good mech GD comes out of its hole and starts crying OP. This is psychotic and you know it.


Noone is saying its op, only profile is way smaller than it should have been.

View PostImperius, on 07 October 2015 - 05:42 AM, said:

Funny you're the only one wanting it bigger from me skimming the thread. Your opinion is invalid because the majority has spoken and says it's fine how it is. Have a great day!


i dont think you understand what makes an opinion invalid. In any case, noone here actually argued the point of wheter its smaller than it should be, they rather did say "finally a good mech!" which sums up the bias.

#75 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:49 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 07 October 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

If you're in the crab.. that's great.

If you're in the 40-45 ton mech getting shot from around the crab... it's a bit insulting.


What is it when you turn sideways and can shield a Dire Wolf? :)

An over exaggeration, but I bet the side profile of the Crab is longer than any other medium mech in the game.

In reality, you could probably shield 2 Cicada torsos parked next to it lol

So don't torso twist.

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 07 October 2015 - 05:54 AM.


#76 Livewyr

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:53 AM

View PostMeiSooHaityu, on 07 October 2015 - 05:49 AM, said:

What is it when you turn sideways and can shield a Dire Wolf? :)

An over exaggeration, but I bet the side profile of the Crab is longer than any other medium mech in the game. Don't torso twist.


I dunno about that.. The Shadow Cat has a pretty long Torso too...

#77 kapusta11

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:55 AM

4 pages and not a single screenshot. Is it really that small?

#78 pbiggz

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:56 AM

View PostLordhammer, on 07 October 2015 - 05:45 AM, said:


Noone is saying its op, only profile is way smaller than it should have been.



i dont think you understand what makes an opinion invalid. In any case, noone here actually argued the point of wheter its smaller than it should be, they rather did say "finally a good mech!" which sums up the bias.



This is quite simple so do your best to get it through your dense steiner brain.

IT IS NOT TOO SMALL

OTHER MEDIUMS ARE TOO BIG

MAKE OTHER MEDIUMS SMALLER AND THEN THE CRAB WONT BE TOO SMALL

#79 Baba Yogi

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 05:57 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 07 October 2015 - 05:53 AM, said:


I dunno about that.. The Shadow Cat has a pretty long Torso too...


Thats the thing though neither mech has dragon level protrusion. It way smaller than it should be so as long as you keep at range you are at advantage. I dont think size should come in to the game as a balancing aspect that would be both stupid and unreliable.

#80 MeiSooHaityu

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Posted 07 October 2015 - 06:02 AM

View Postkapusta11, on 07 October 2015 - 05:55 AM, said:

4 pages and not a single screenshot. Is it really that small?




If you freeze it at 0:47, you can see it is a bit smaller than a Cicada in front profile. The torso itself is about the same height, but the legs are longer which elevates the torso a bit higher than the Crab's in relative position. The Cicada is more squared off vs the rounded top of the Crab, so the Cicada's shoulders protrude a bit more (probably how Livewyr was able to hit a Cicada past a Crab). let the video play a couple more seconds and you can see the Crab's length is twice the width of a Cicada (where most of the Crab's surface area is exposed). Is it longer or shorter than a Shadow Cat, I don't know. It is longer than any other IS medium though.

UPDATE:

Actually, I didn't notice this, but freeze it at about 1:31 and you can see a size comparison with the Cicada side to side. It is clearly longer than the Cicada, but not as bad as I thought.

Really, it is probably about the same size as a Cicada overall. The Trade-off is the Crab is a bit longer and has it's primary weapons spaced out away from the torso where it is more vulnerable, where as the Cicada has a slightly larger front profile.

It is closer than a thought, but maybe the Crab's extra tonnage is in the arms the Cicada doesn't have. in either case, the Crab overall is bigger IMO. Just a little closer than I gave it credit for,

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 07 October 2015 - 06:09 AM.






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