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#41 pbiggz

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 07:16 PM

IS vs IS

#42 Commander A9

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:29 PM

How about Jade Falcon versus Steiner on Somerset?

Like the old 1994 Battletech TV show would have it?

Also, if these are going to be similar to the ComStar intercepts, make sure that both the attacker AND the defender get something for winning. The flaw with the ComStar intercepts is that they award only one side for victory.

Edited by Commander A9, 10 October 2015 - 09:31 PM.


#43 Davers

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 09:36 PM

View PostIhasa, on 10 October 2015 - 06:56 PM, said:

So much IS vs IS suggestions.....

IS vs Clan seems to be the only real CW happening at the moment. Maybe people want a change? I think there should be more Clan vs Clan matches too. ;)

#44 Ihasa

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Posted 10 October 2015 - 11:03 PM

Personally I'd like to see a moratorium on Clan vs IS because i think it might be fun/good/different/unexpected/some-lore-thing for the player base to stay IS vs IS and Clan vs Clan for say two or three months to see what happens. But that's just me, I don't have metrics and I don't have the pulse of every member in my unit to say that would be appropriate or not.

Edited by Ihasa, 10 October 2015 - 11:03 PM.


#45 Shell Game

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 12:24 AM

View PostUberStuka, on 10 October 2015 - 01:50 PM, said:

The most popular rivals...

JadeFalcon vs Wolf
Kurita vs SmokeJag
Liao vs Davion
Steiner vs Marik
FRR vs TeddyBear

and the winners are....

Falcon / Wolf PUGS and a vast majority of their units are by far the worst in the entire game. If Wolf pulls this one off it will be with numbers not skill.

Kurita / This one could really go either way... I'll give the edge Kurita considering SmokeJags recent inactivity

Davion / I would have called this one a toss up a few months back when Liao actually had a population. Now it seems like Davion is fielding better units while Liao has almost none. Out of the back 3 houses (no clan borders) Davion is clearly the strongest.

Steiner / They win this by default considering there is no one in Mark to fight. While I am kind of on the fence about this match up being an actual "grudge". There was some bad blood there early on in Beta1

FRR / Both factions have decent units but lets be honest the Bear has been a shadow of its former self since Beta2



Honestly it would be interesting to have the factions bid for Mercs to spice things up a bit.

This post encapsulates pretty clearly the preferences of much of the lore seeking player base...

#46 Krivvan

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Posted 11 October 2015 - 10:06 PM

Very few people actually have any connection to factions. If there are any rivalries, it's just between units. Units that frequently hop between factions.

#47 seye

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:15 AM

Back under your rocks please, lore has no place in the effective balancing of this game.

#48 Minimum Viable Kieransky

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 11:07 AM

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Kurita vs. Steiner


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#49 Deadmeat313

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 01:28 PM

The Lyran Commonwealth really should go after Jade Falcon to try to re-take Donegal. It is a founder Lyran World!
The Capellan Confederation could go after JF (Sarna), Davion (St Ives), or even Marik (Andurien).
The Draconis Combine could go after Wolf to push towards Dieron, or they could push SJ towards Alshain.
The Free Worlds League needs to push JF and re-take Amity or Stewart.
The Federated Suns should prioritise the re-capture of Tikonov from Wolf. It's where they were getting all their CTF-3Ds from.
The Free Rasalhague Republic could go for New Oslo again. It was the site of their only Mech factory.

Clan Jade Falcon should go after Steiner, and eliminate the Winfield salient.
Clan Wolf should go after Jade Falcon and try to reconnect to their periphery supplies - or go for Tamar.
Clan Smoke Jaguar should go after Kurita to re-take Rockland and Schwartz.
Clan Ghost Bear should try to take Damian and Santander from SJ and Wolf respectively.

#50 sycocys

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 02:46 AM

Faction - Players VS Faction - PGI

#51 Kainen253

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 04:19 AM

View PostDeadmeat313, on 12 October 2015 - 01:28 PM, said:

The Lyran Commonwealth really should go after Jade Falcon to try to re-take Donegal. It is a founder Lyran World!
The Capellan Confederation could go after JF (Sarna), Davion (St Ives), or even Marik (Andurien).
The Draconis Combine could go after Wolf to push towards Dieron, or they could push SJ towards Alshain.
The Free Worlds League needs to push JF and re-take Amity or Stewart.
The Federated Suns should prioritise the re-capture of Tikonov from Wolf. It's where they were getting all their CTF-3Ds from.
The Free Rasalhague Republic could go for New Oslo again. It was the site of their only Mech factory.

Clan Jade Falcon should go after Steiner, and eliminate the Winfield salient.
Clan Wolf should go after Jade Falcon and try to reconnect to their periphery supplies - or go for Tamar.
Clan Smoke Jaguar should go after Kurita to re-take Rockland and Schwartz.
Clan Ghost Bear should try to take Damian and Santander from SJ and Wolf respectively.


This. Probably the best blend of lore and the reality of this game. Make it happen PGI!! Please? With sugar and sprinkles and bacon?

#52 Linkin

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 01:44 PM

Anything for Ghost Bear vs whomever.

Ghost Bear used to have much better numbers, but now GB CW is a wasteland. My small unit just bounces between JF and SJ for now, but even those matches are getting slim.

So now that I put in the required faction vs faction, any word on that phase 3 unicorn that eludes us? This is a great gesture Paul, but CW has been losing population steadily for a while now...

Edit- yes I know, other topics mention CW being dead, phase 3, etc, but really all we have had is crickets on phase 3 for bordering on too long.

PS- did I mention GB vs whoever gets GB back in the game for CW matches? :)

Edited by Linkin, 13 October 2015 - 01:46 PM.


#53 Javin

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 02:16 PM

Anything IS Vs IS. There is nothing but Clan vs IS now.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 03:01 PM

It's pretty simple.

Liao kill Davions. Why? Because when the CW map starts in 3050, the upper third of Liao is already Davion-controlled. That's reason enough right there.

But it's hard to build grudges when you've made CW reward faction hopping more than faction loyalty.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 05:38 AM

Kill all Ghost bears. They thought they were so special, attacking the FRR at the start using mercs to bolster their sub-par warriors. Now that they have blown all of their money they crawl back into their caves to hibernate until they can hire more mercs to make them feel like they can actually fight.


Ghost Bears -- The Ned Flanders of MWO.

Edited by nehebkau, 15 October 2015 - 09:41 AM.


#56 VorpalAnvil

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 09:01 AM

Smoke Jag vs. Kurita

View Postsycocys, on 13 October 2015 - 02:46 AM, said:

Faction - Players VS Faction - PGI


Clubbing seals is my specialty.

Also: JohnnyZ vs.a bear with the strength of 2 bears.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 10:20 PM

View PostIhasa, on 10 October 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:

Personally I'd like to see a moratorium on Clan vs IS because i think it might be fun/good/different/unexpected/some-lore-thing for the player base to stay IS vs IS and Clan vs Clan for say two or three months to see what happens. But that's just me, I don't have metrics and I don't have the pulse of every member in my unit to say that would be appropriate or not.


sounds interesting, as there is no new content in CW i vote for any extravagant ideas, the developers should use the fact that its still beta to experiment with all kinds of stuff like that.
pair 2-3 nations and make them each take several planets from one enemy while preventing loss of planets from both
its like temporal global cease fire, while the nations use this time to settle old feuds with neighbours

P.S.:
Another idea.
Clan ..... (enter name) has been convicted of breaking the law and honor by using forbidden war tactics (poison water, use nukes, eradicate civilians, attacking celebrations, etc.) they have been declared blood enemies (or whatever the name was) in a trial of combat they have to wash clean their name with their own blood.
- all nations have the only choice to attack them. goal: clan... do not loose more than 20 planets, rest take 20 planets from them in like 1-2 weeks
same can be made for other nations, because lore is full of war crimes
if there are such events there will be needed a way to fix the number of players on both sides, not that ppl say 'hey we will be attacked by all' lets change sides to kick the fallen

Edited by multisoul, 15 October 2015 - 10:30 PM.


#58 AGTMADCAT

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:18 AM

Might be slightly out of order in the timeline, but how about Steiner and Wolf together vs. Jade Falcon? :D

#59 masCh

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:43 AM

Any Clan vs Clan and IS vs IS for 3 months.

Afterall, after Tukayyid, there's supposed to be a truce between IS and Clan. So IS vs IS and Clan vs Clan is the way forward for a while. Or 2 Clans vs 1 Clan, or 2 IS vs 1 IS. Its a good time to experiment with this, its beta after all.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 02:17 PM

So has PGI given up on this since its harder than a twitter post announcement?

for a suggestion: Whichever faction has the most planets, should be the target of the most attacks.

CJF has 50% of the planets, then each faction should have a goal to take one away from them.

Edited by Adamski, 16 October 2015 - 02:19 PM.






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