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[V O L T R O N]

I think so. They added a mechanic in the game that forces you to click without an outside program. It requires skill not to constantly jam and keep fire suppression in their face, or else you are just one clicking and letting a script do all the job. At its very core to me that is considered a hack. Holding a button down and following a target is not skill. You cant play every weapon like lasers either because you are lazy or you suck, or your just that vain you need to cheat your high scores and others.

Non UI PROGRAMS should be BANNABLE. This is my opinion and my morality.

No, they dont help jam chance, and Yes I understand PGI "Allows" it.

I would like to apologize to anyone that has medical problems that use macro programs just to be able to play.

If there is no advantage, why use them? Try jj in a direwolf holding onto a component while maximizing your spam...

I have never padded my stats with mechs, programs or loadouts like certain players so I dont need these or be told to get good like Fierostats. < Personal attacks arent needed when I can always edit this OP

Edited by V O L T R O N, 13 October 2015 - 04:42 AM.

[Yellonet]

Yes it is, but soon there will be people saying it's not because "macros do not give any advantage"...

[Mcgral18]

...really?


Pressing a button twice constitutes as a skill? They jam at the same rate, so there's no real difference to clicking manually 5 times (to get it at recycle) or using a Macro.


I'm not a fan of losing the control Macros take away (though I assume you can go while MB1 down, dakka dakka, when MB1 release don't Dakka Dakka), so I don't use Macros.


Your reasoning is just silly, though. Pressing a button twice VS grabbing a program to do it for you.
Either way, you need to aim.
Either way, you're subject to RNGeesus.

Yellonet, on 11 October 2015 - 10:24 PM, said:

Yes it is, but soon there will be people saying it's not because "macros do not give any advantage"...

Well, thinking about it critically...

[Revis Volek]

I don't see the point in them honestly and do just fine without them but McGral put it much more eloquently.

[Sigilum Sanctum]

If I had a cbill for everytime this topic popped up I could buy every HPG station in the IS and use them all to tell this community: No.

[Ex Atlas Overlord]

They are outside programs that circumvent the rules built into the game.

They are by definition cheating.....

However, PGI allows them to be used

[Duke ramulots]

The Atlas Overlord, on 11 October 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

However, PGI allows them to be used

So they are by a real definition not cheating.

[Pjwned]

Macros confer no advantage to avoid UAC jamming, saying otherwise is wrong.

[Mcgral18]

The Atlas Overlord, on 11 October 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

They are outside programs that circumvent the rules built into the game.

They are by definition cheating.....

However, PGI allows them to be used

Which rules do they circumnavigate?
That's right...none.


Yet people keep whining that they do. I can't see the logic behind these guys.

[Revis Volek]

The Atlas Overlord, on 11 October 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

They are outside programs that circumvent the rules built into the game.

They are by definition cheating.....

However, PGI allows them to be used

They don't Circumvent anything...Same RNG chance, same dmg, same everything.

One thing they can do is they people with physical disabilities use the mouse like someone with out them maybe? Like Arthritis?

[Mad Strike]

Yeah because making your pc to automatically fire faster than you could manually is not an "advantage".......damm *******.

[T0rmented]

Ah this old chestnut, are macro's cheating? According to PGI, they are fine, but I feel that PGI just lacks the ability to detect them and therefore lets them go.
Personally when i first ran into opponents running macro fire, i got *****.
So i thought to myself, how do i beat these guys?
I did not get a macro, I got better.
Next time i saw that guy, and every time since i beat him.
If you too feel macro's are cheating, don't be a little whiny [richard cameron], get better and beat them with (almost) default controls. Then feel like a superhero, then get yourself accused of cheating. Then sit back thinking to yourself i can beat people using artificial advantages, without one myself.

Carry harder.

[627]

The Atlas Overlord, on 11 October 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

They are outside programs that circumvent the rules built into the game.

They are by definition cheating.....

However, PGI allows them to be used

This game is server authorative so there's no way a macro let you shoot faster. And a Macro can't reduce Jam chance.


So what exactly do you think the infamous UAC Macro does?

Without the macro it is the following.
A - You press and hold your trigger, the UAC shoots like a regular AC, no ultra mode and no jam chance. normal cooldown.

B - You double tap to enable ultra mode and the UAC tries to get a second shot within its cooldown phase. you have to win the dice roll for this or it will jam.


so what shall the macro do different? Remember, a macro is an automated way of pushing buttons, no magic cheating software that alters hex codes in your ram.

[T0rmented]

A macro does it all for you so all you have to do is point. Aim is two things point and click, your macro removes half of it. But its cool, i dont care you need every advantage your gonna get because im still going to be dancing on your mechs eviscerated corpse.

[Speedy Plysitkos]

A program that creates benefits ingame otherwise not possible to get for a player IS CHEAT.

/thead.

[Revis Volek]

Titannium, on 11 October 2015 - 10:53 PM, said:

A program that creates benefits ingame otherwise not possible to get for a player IS CHEAT.

/thead.

What advantage does a MACRO CREATE FOR UACS?

No one has answered that question yet because its doesn't give you any advantage.

[V O L T R O N]

T0rmented, on 11 October 2015 - 10:45 PM, said:

Ah this old chestnut, are macro's cheating? According to PGI, they are fine, but I feel that PGI just lacks the ability to detect them and therefore lets them go.
Personally when i first ran into opponents running macro fire, i got *****.
So i thought to myself, how do i beat these guys?
I did not get a macro, I got better.
Next time i saw that guy, and every time since i beat him.
If you too feel macro's are cheating, don't be a little whiny [richard cameron], get better and beat them with (almost) default controls. Then feel like a superhero, then get yourself accused of cheating. Then sit back thinking to yourself i can beat people using artificial advantages, without one myself.

Carry harder.

Ive whooped you on many occasions friend - Psycho Icon

[T0rmented]

and ive got u right back, neither of us use macro, both of us **** those that do. Enjoy being a level above those that need em

[V O L T R O N]

T0rmented, on 11 October 2015 - 10:57 PM, said:

and ive got u right back, neither of us use macro, both of us **** those that do. Enjoy being a level above those that need em

I do and I am. You're right thou. Just think pgi has trouble detecting personal scripts.

[Yellonet]

DarthRevis, on 11 October 2015 - 10:55 PM, said:

What advantage does a MACRO CREATE FOR UACS?

No one has answered that question yet because its doesn't give you any advantage.

Why do people use it then?