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#41 MechWarrior5152251

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 03:57 PM

The underhive is raging over the changes on the test servers. If this was on the live servers they would loose their Effing minds!

Easy balance solution. Give IS melee, kicks, punches, swords, axes and DFA!

#42 patataman

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 04:00 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 15 October 2015 - 02:07 PM, said:

Yet doesn't affect Tri-Quad-Penta-Hexa ACx boating Whales or Dual Gauss of any type.

It hurts IS lasers far more than it does Clan lasers.


About the AC boats or dual gauss, the reduced sensor range for heavies and assaults in many cases makes them depend on lighter mechs for spotting. Or eyeballs 1.0 when doritos are not available. Feels like an indirect nerf to me, requiring better awareness to use the ballistics for full effect.

Edited by patataman, 15 October 2015 - 04:01 PM.


#43 Kira Onime

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 04:27 PM

View PostMechWarrior5152251, on 15 October 2015 - 03:57 PM, said:

The underhive is raging over the changes on the test servers. If this was on the live servers they would loose their Effing minds!

Easy balance solution. Give IS melee, kicks, punches, swords, axes and DFA!


I demand a Nova-U with a big ass sword if that happens.

#44 Deathlike

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 04:33 PM

View PostYellonet, on 15 October 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

I really see this as a very positive change, the "staring" bit is great as it may slow down gameplay and TTK goes up (very slightly, b/c only lasers) because of sometimes reduced damage. And when the T.A.R. comes into the picture it will become pretty interesting as in general, lighter mechs will have lower TAR and as such will be able to use their lasers fully sooner than bigger mechs. So that will somewhat mitigate the huge laser alpha to the face as soon as you peek a ridge.


No.. you'll get PPC+Gaussed to death by the top tier players instead as they don't suffer from the laser targeting range nerf.

If you want to see unintended consequences... we'll more likely slide back to 2013-2014 where people will excessively complain about a former meta.

Right now, the Doritos delay is not online on the PTS... so you're going to see a bigger change once "TAR" is actually online live.

Edited by Deathlike, 15 October 2015 - 04:33 PM.


#45 WarHippy

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:30 AM

View PostIllya Arkhipova, on 15 October 2015 - 01:23 PM, said:

or put on their big boy pants...push it all through to live servers...let the whiners abandon ship like rats, and go QQ on the Star Citizen forums and Reddit.... and leave the game to those who actually want to play an MW game.... :ph34r:

Are you really advocating to push test content onto the live servers, and that anyone that doesn't like the changes don't want to play an "actual" MW game? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds?

#46 TexAce

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:45 AM

I would put it on the live servers immediately sans the new crosshair

#47 Illya Ghost Bear

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:55 AM

View PostWarHippy, on 16 October 2015 - 07:30 AM, said:

Are you really advocating to push test content onto the live servers, and that anyone that doesn't like the changes don't want to play an "actual" MW game? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds?

your ability to detect the irony ninja is impressive, but you are not yet ready, grasshopper......

#48 WarHippy

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:20 AM

View PostIllya Arkhipova, on 16 October 2015 - 07:55 AM, said:

your ability to detect the irony ninja is impressive, but you are not yet ready, grasshopper......

Apparently so... Care to elaborate then?

#49 MechaBattler

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:25 AM

This test is not the complete overhaul. It would be a bad idea for them to put an incomplete balancing pass on live.

They should just do one of those trick or treat events on the PTS, but the rewards go toward the live server.

#50 Clownwarlord

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:39 AM

I can agree with either rewards for participating in the test server. Myself I do not see the point in joining the test server for what few matches I play a day and get no reward that transitions over to my actual mwo live account. I also have run into issues transitioning from running the test server and then back to the live servers causing multiple installation of the live mwo client.

As for just introducing what you would have on the test server instead on the live server ... well that can cause issues with the population and players irritated over how things are changed with out fully being worked out first.

So this may be my opinion but the only way to increase the test server population is to give a reward, and then have the test server run for a months time to get a sufficient run on the new mechanics.

Suggestion for reward:

Install and play 1 match on test server get a free mech bay (yeah cost may go into thousands of dollars but should pay off later when the game is better for it when steam comes).

Play 50 matches on test server for that time period get 10 million C-Bills and 10k GXP (that way they get to take something back with them to their live account and similar to what they could have earned ... sorta short in my opinion on pay out but its something).

Play 100 matches on test server for that time period get a cockpit item (like operation 24 hanging item ... something to say hey I helped out in a big way on the test server).

#51 Mystere

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:46 AM

View PostMechWarrior5152251, on 15 October 2015 - 03:57 PM, said:

The underhive is raging over the changes on the test servers. If this was on the live servers they would loose their Effing minds!

Easy balance solution. Give IS melee, kicks, punches, swords, axes and DFA!


I don't think it's just the Underhive that's raging.

#52 GrimRiver

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:32 AM

Im just waiting on the fine tuned finished PTS update on live severs so I can play again without worrying about alpha laser vomit boats as much, it's gonna bring varied builds back again because laser boat won't do as good as AC's and maybe SRM's will be more usable too.

#53 Mister Blastman

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 11:34 AM

They should bribe us to play on PTS.

#54 Mcgral18

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 11:36 AM

View PostGrimRiver, on 16 October 2015 - 09:32 AM, said:

Im just waiting on the fine tuned finished PTS update on live severs so I can play again without worrying about alpha laser vomit boats as much, it's gonna bring varied builds back again because laser boat won't do as good as AC's and maybe SRM's will be more usable too.


Making lasers worse doesn't make SRMs better; Gauss still remains at the top.

PPCs might even see use; on chassis that can mount 20 heatsinks with them.

#55 GrimRiver

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 01:04 PM

View PostMcgral18, on 16 October 2015 - 11:36 AM, said:


Making lasers worse doesn't make SRMs better; Gauss still remains at the top.

PPCs might even see use; on chassis that can mount 20 heatsinks with them.

It doesn't make SRM's any better but it does let people get in close with SRM's more often without taking 3 laser alphas within 30 second from a ebon or timber.





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