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[Dashia]

Hellow Wolf Clan i recently accepted a contract. The drops have been fun. I own a add-A but mostly have inner-sphere mechs. Im looking to get more clan mech to compete better from the clan. My question is what is better in heavy class? Im looking at a Mad Dog-P or a Timber wolf-a. Timber is higher armor, but which one is most worth the cost?

[Khereg]

The TBR is much more versatile and definitely worth the extra $.

The MDD is basically a missile specialist, both LRM's and SRM's (especially streaks - the streak dog is a menace to lights).

The TBR is a direct fire beast with jumpjet potential. Not so much with the UAC dakka, but it has a number of viable builds using combinations of gauss and energy.

For CW, you will be limited to 2 TBR's in your deck, although most clan decks stay with 1. Usually something like 1 TBR and 3 SCR's for folks who only have a few chassis available.

If you don't have SCR's yet, I might suggest that is a better place to start as they have variants that can do laser vomit, gauss + laser, or streaks/SRM's. In theory you could do LRM's also, but I wouldn't recommend it.

[AlphaToaster]

The TBR hands down.

Did you narrow your pick to those two because they run LRMs?

I would advise against that planning, and go with direct fire mechs in the 55 ton (SCR) and 65 ton (HBR, EBN) range because they stack well as a deck.

55 x 2
65 x 2

Or

65 x 3
45 Ton Ice Ferret or Shadowcat.

Going with a Timberwolf you can only bring at the most 2, if you bring 2 SHC or 2 IFR's. If you go with 55 ton or 65 ton, you can use 2 or 3 of your mastered mechs right away. With the SCR you could even run a deck of 4 of them and they support LRMs, Energy, and Dakka builds.

[Vxheous]

2 timber/ 1 crow/ 1 cheetah is more viable deck than bringing 45 ton clan mechs.

Personally, I drop 1 timber 1 cheetah and a combo of 2 65 tonners (hellbringers and/or ebon jags)

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 10 October 2015 - 02:31 AM.

[Lord Domino]

If you are just starting your clan collection, I'd recommend either the Ebon Jaguar or the Hellbringer as your first investment. As they are 65 tonners, your deck can consist of 3 of these mechs plus a light or medium (45 tons max) for the 4th slot. I personally think the ebon jag is the best all round clan mech for cw, but there are a lot who think the Hellbringer is better since it can carry ECM. Either way you go, picking one of these chassis as your core is a good choice as you can elite 3 of them and have your drop deck basically ready to go with minimal effort. Some other solid decks that will take more cbills and grinding of xp-- 2 x Timberwolves + 1 x Ebon Jag/Hellbringer + 1 x Mist Lynx. Also decent and relatively quick to level up would be 2 x Ebon Jags/Hellbringers + 2 x Stromcrows. The advantage of the last deck is you only need to buy 6 mechs to get your decks leveled up, and you don't have to bring a "filler" mech. I frigging hate having to be in a mist lynx so I only use that deck when dropping with a team, since that often means I will never even need the 4th mech. In choosing the right mechs for a drop deck I feel the most important consideration is how successful you and your team are, because you are safe to use one filler mech or even 2 if your team does well. Like if we get a full 12 man going, I like to drop 2 executioners (95 tons each) and 2 mist lynxes, on the prediction we are gonna do some stomping and I will be unlikely to get to that 3rd or 4th mech. In reality, one filler mech is safer to drop with, and if you go with my first suggestion of 3 x 65 tonners + a 45 tonner, well your last mech can be a shadow cat which isn't really filler at all-- it can do some good work. That s the way I drop for pug and solo matches cause you just really have no idea what is gonna happen and you may well need a decent mech for the last wave.

[Chocowolf Sradac]

When it comes to clan heavies The Timberwolf can tank the most damage where the Madd dog is better at being missile support whether they are lrm 5s or streaks. comparing these two mechs the Timberwolf is the much better and more versatile chassis for both pug drops and community warfare and to this day is still one of the best clan mechs even after receiving the nerf bat it is still considered a clan top tier heavy mech.

It depends if your looking at this for either pug dropping or for community Warfare. For community warfare you can take a max of 2 timberwolves which leaves space for a light and for a medium. The Ebon jaguar and the hellbringer are also good clan heavies to look at as they are lighter then the timberwolf to allow more options with your dropdeck. The hellbringer can mount an ecm and the ebon jaguar has more space for components and weapons. Both mechs can't tank damage as well as the timberwolf but in the right hands are equally as deadly if not more then the timberwolf. Unfortunately in the heavy class the maddog and summoner both fall to being more sub par. They both are not bad mechs but both have issues which prevent them from really being good mechs and that is massive torso hitboxes which both mechs can't tank damage very well. Again in the right hands they can be very dangerous mechs but the other 3 mech chassis are better mechs. For example the Streak maddog is killer against lights or if it is setup to spam an endless stream or lrm 5s the maddog has potential. The summoner isn't bad but sadly the other chassis work equally if not better then the summoner and it's humanoid shape actually is a bad thing as players are used to shooting that from other shooter games.

Edited by Chocowolf, 30 November 2015 - 02:14 PM.

[Chocowolf Sradac]

Vxheous Kerensky, on 10 October 2015 - 02:28 AM, said:

2 timber/ 1 crow/ 1 cheetah is more viable deck than bringing 45 ton clan mechs.

Personally, I drop 1 timber 1 cheetah and a combo of 2 65 tonners (hellbringers and/or ebon jags)

The 2 timber deck has been my dropdeck pretty much since release of community warfare with the change being changing the kittfox to the cheetah when that came out. the two timber or 65 tonners is a much better drop deck then bringing an iceferret or a shadowcat which both are not very great mechs. both are too situational for being successful. In the right hands they are not bad mechs but 2 65 tonners or 2 timbers is a much better deck with how community warfare is setup at the moment. It is a much better bang for buck for your tonnage usage.

Edited by Chocowolf, 30 November 2015 - 02:07 PM.

[Vxheous]

I personally feel the 75/65/65/30 (cheetah is 30) is the clans best dropdeck. Sure you leave 5 tons out, but thats ok.

My 3K+ damage games were all achieved with that deck, apart from the IS Stalker/tdr/tdr/fs9

Edited by Vxheous Kerensky, 30 November 2015 - 03:42 PM.

[Commander A9]

Timber Wolf was and still is one of the best mechs available to the Clans. Fast, well-armored, with a wide range of loadouts available.

Timber Wolf-C variant can be customized to the point that it suffers from no penalties, delivers sound sustained firepower, and keeps itself relatively cool. Despite the recent nerf-a-tron ten-ton-hammer-to-the-face changes that PGI has done to it, it's still a viable system in any mechwarrior's hands.

[zeves]

As a beginner i would cram as many timber wolves as is possible at whatever tonnage limit is available, atm with the 260 you can have 3. storm crows are still quite good aswell. ive been looking at one of the sites that have theese so called "meta builds"
and some are laughable a few actually seems good. i would say specially for a beginner use a mix of lasers. i wouldnt touch the gauss now, especially not without a macro.
I know it can be tempting to try CW when looking at the big payouts. but keep in mind you dont get a million if you dont win and perform rubbish.

[Lupis Volk]

Timberwolf and Stormcrow are the two go to beginner clan mechs.