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[Ordin Hall]

Can't wait for my next ban. :^)

[Raggedyman]

Kjudoon, on 21 October 2015 - 06:22 PM, said:

I am not defending it. In fact i am mocking the fact it is overly broad and open to way too much interpretation by feels. It will be abused and untill i see otherwise i will also give PGI to be smarter than the haterade guzzing entitlement jocmies who spam the system for every slight and percieved legalist offense.

That said i have reported my fair share of people. Most of whom were team traitors because these same people who report you for "hiding" did worse than you and dont want to wait for anyone who did better or survived longer.

To be honest they need to remove all chat and the ability to spectate for just this reason. So much garbage removed instantly since we cant have nice things.

All rules systems in games are overly broad, it avoids people trying to edge the rules for gain or amusement. It does result on people reporting based on feels (which happens with everything) but the only feelings you have to worry about are PGIs/whoever has the big red ban button. Everyone else is entitled to an opinion that's worth exactly nothing.

[Kjudoon]

Props for a name of awesomeness, too.

[Paigan]

MechWarrior5152251, on 21 October 2015 - 06:54 PM, said:

My typical chat.

"Your medium lasers cannot hit at 700m"
"Unzoom and you will be able to see him...."

Hehe, my version is more like "gotta love ERML-HBRs sniping back at 1000m ".

[Mystere]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 21 October 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

Ironic use of nonconstructive chat in a thread about nonconstructive chat

Go ahead. Report me!

[JohnnyWayne]

Whenever I tell people to l2p or that they suck its not an insult. Its an observation and I am sharing it with them as they need to know the truth. If noone tells an idiot that he is one he will never consider that option by himself.

[FluffehBunneh]

1453 R, on 19 October 2015 - 10:59 PM, said:

'Non-constructive chat' is a catch-all for something that players might want to report, but which doesn't fit any other given category. Someone who spends the entire match, for example, going on at length about the mating habits of South African swallows is not at all being constructive.

But... What If I wanna know moar about South African swallows sexy time... :,(

[Kalimaster]

Anything you say can and will be held against you. Anything you don't say can and will be held against you.

[Hotthedd]

JohnnyWayne, on 22 October 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

Whenever I tell people to l2p or that they suck its not an insult. Its an observation and I am sharing it with them as they need to know the truth. If noone tells an idiot that he is one he will never consider that option by himself.

LOL!

I admit that I've never looked at it that way. You are quite the humanitarian.

[JohnnyWayne]

Hotthedd, on 22 October 2015 - 07:36 AM, said:

LOL!

I admit that I've never looked at it that way. You are quite the humanitarian.

I know right? XD

[Raggedyman]

JohnnyWayne, on 22 October 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

Whenever I tell people to l2p or that they suck its not an insult. Its an observation and I am sharing it with them as they need to know the truth. If noone tells an idiot that he is one he will never consider that option by himself.

Have you ever tried this in real life?
Did it result in a particular response from the person you said it to?
If so then consider that saying it in a game has that same effect.

Also consider that the game has plenty of ways of giving them that same feedback, and that your additional feedback may not be necessary for them to know that they aren't that great at the game. So that whilst it may not be your intent the perception of your commentary on others playing could well be seen as being more about you than about them.

Just a thought

[Joseph Mallan]

JohnnyWayne, on 22 October 2015 - 07:01 AM, said:

Whenever I tell people to l2p or that they suck its not an insult. Its an observation and I am sharing it with them as they need to know the truth. If noone tells an idiot that he is one he will never consider that option by himself.

[JohnnyWayne]

Raggedyman, on 22 October 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

Have you ever tried this in real life?
Did it result in a particular response from the person you said it to?
If so then consider that saying it in a game has that same effect.

Yes. Though in RL I have more time to elaborate. It helps all the time.

The biggest problem I see with people is, that noone is direct enough to say how it is. Noone steps up and does what others evade because they don't like it. In meetings or lessons most keep quiet because they don't care. They just adapt and never excel. Tell them so, show them and there is a chance it changes.

In game I don't have time for that, so this has to be enough.

Joseph Mallan, on 22 October 2015 - 08:24 AM, said:

http://z0r.de/4551

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 22 October 2015 - 08:29 AM.

[Whatzituyah]

Raggedyman, on 22 October 2015 - 03:55 AM, said:

All rules systems in games are overly broad, it avoids people trying to edge the rules for gain or amusement. It does result on people reporting based on feels (which happens with everything) but the only feelings you have to worry about are PGIs/whoever has the big red ban button. Everyone else is entitled to an opinion that's worth exactly nothing.

I do agree but what are the chances of someones feels to get someone introuble with PGI?

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Mystere, on 22 October 2015 - 06:50 AM, said:

Go ahead. Report me!

I did, they dont care

Which tells me exactly how much the mods care about their own rules lol

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 22 October 2015 - 09:53 AM.

[Jon Gotham]

I had better stay silent then. Seems to be every game I play I'm having to cajole/prod the team to actually engage/move/DO ANYTHING BUT STAND STILL.
Plus if non-participation is reportable, how can 90% of the entire playerbase be reported? Because the vast majority of players in solo Q at least, just passively stand...waiting for the next guy to do something so they are not first to get shot at.

[JohnnyWayne]

627, on 22 October 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

just quoting myself, talking about unconstructive...

well... let me share something with you:



especially yay cat was a response to another player who greeted me...

This is unacceptable. I can see why people report for voipabuse as it is a tactical means and disruptive but chat is too delayed for such. And you can turn it off all together.

A chat is there to literally means to chat. Trolling is part of the intenet culture and as such has a place in any chat. This is outrageous, PGI get your **** together!

Whats next? Supporttickets for cursewords? GOD damn canadians! >.<

I take myself the right to say what I think and no company keeps from doing so. Some internet strangers with sticks as spines (that reaches to and was inserted through their butts) won't keep me from doing so. And I also don't care if these feel insulted, welcome to the PVP corner of the internet baby.

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 22 October 2015 - 10:38 AM.

[627]

JohnnyWayne, on 22 October 2015 - 10:31 AM, said:

This is unacceptable. I can see why people report for voipabuse as it is a tactical means and disruptive but chat is too delayed for such. And you can turn it off all together.

A chat is there to literally means to chat. Trolling is part of the intenet culture and as such has a place in any chat. This is outrageous, PGI get your **** together!

Whats next? Supporttickets for cursewords? GOD damn canadians! >.<

And to add to this, that was more or less pregame, in the first minutes when everyone looks for a good position and nothing happens. Hell I just go a match where people talked about makin some taccos from bananas or so...

Aaand it's all chat, that you have to turn on by hand.

[JohnnyWayne]

Im actually thinking about opening a support ticket right now to complain.

[Mystere]

627, on 22 October 2015 - 10:02 AM, said:

just quoting myself, talking about unconstructive...

well... let me share something with you:



especially yay cat was a response to another player who greeted me...

I suggest creating a support ticket to force the issue with GM_Patience with regard to you greeting another player. Even GM's need to be reminded from time to time what is acceptable and what is not.