44 replies to this topic

[TexAce]

I think it will sort it self out pretty fast. PGI has not much staff, they will have to concentrate everything on the really important reports so I don't fear much exploiting.

[Raggedyman]

Whatzituyah, on 19 October 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:

Please someone from PGI their has to be some exceptions to what you can be reported for example Non-Constructive. Is saying "GG" going to get you in trouble because its technically is non-constructive for the game at the moment?

Very unlikely, especially as it's a standard gaming etiquette and doesn't detract from the gaming experience.

[Queen of England]

I think people are too concerned about possible report trolling. PGI had added a lot of features that people were worried would result in a lot of greifing (VoIP, public tiers) that didn't really materialize. I'm sure there will be some amount of non-productive use of the reporting feature, but I doubt there will be a significant problem.

[Raggedyman]

TexAce, on 20 October 2015 - 03:09 AM, said:

I think it will sort it self out pretty fast. PGI has not much staff, they will have to concentrate everything on the really important reports so I don't fear much exploiting.

IME the priority will be
The big three, that can kill a game
1 - Cheating/Exploiting (cheats wreck games, also a source of account theft which causes CS issues)
2 - Spamming/Advertising (mostly advertising, incase its a competitor leeching money away)
3 - Harassing/Language (mostly after hate-speech and IRL threats (inc child saftey), as those lose you players

The middle stuff, that can slowly lose you players
4 - Team Damage / Team Killing/ Assisting the Enemy (actively screwing a game is really annoying)
5 - Suiciding / AFK / Disconnecting (passively screwing a game is annoying, but less so than the stuff above)

The bottom stuff, that you get to when there is nothing else to do in the above because it can lose you players maybe if someone is determined to be a **** but hasn't graduated to being a proper nuisance.
6 - Nonconstructive (players can be jerks that need to be told to chill now and then)

Edited by Raggedyman, 20 October 2015 - 08:07 AM.

[Col Jaime Wolf]

im sure pgi will clarify what constitutes what over time im not to worried about it.

[UnsafePilot]

I've played a large amount of games with chat report options. None of them seemed to have a timid player base over it.

I think we'll be fine here.

Edited by UnsafePilot, 20 October 2015 - 04:19 AM.

[PyckenZot]

The suicide reporting should only be valid if the they concerns people intentionally doing so to specifically limit the chances of their team winning (e.g. during events).

Suicides by out of bounds or overheating get negative points and only annoy people requiring their K/D e-peen to be stroked. These should not be penalised more as that will encourage hiding more often (will this also be reportable?)
Sadly I think these kinds of suicides will be a very significant portion of the reports.

[Sjorpha]

PyckenZot, on 20 October 2015 - 04:24 AM, said:

The suicide reporting should only be valid if the they concerns people intentionally doing so to specifically limit the chances of their team winning (e.g. during events).

Agreed.

If you are the last mech on your team and the enemy has several fresh mechs running into the enemy is just as much suicide as running out of bounds is. None of those should be punishable as the only alternative is hiding until the match ends which is even more annoying.

If the win is already secured beyond doubt suicide is the best thing the remaining players can do, that way everyone gets into the next match quicker.

[Shae Starfyre]

Whatzituyah, on 19 October 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:

Please someone from PGI their has to be some exceptions to what you can be reported for example Non-Constructive. Is saying "GG" going to get you in trouble because its technically is non-constructive for the game at the moment?

Some things to consider.

Any given person can only use the reporting 5 times a day (why 5 if statistics are being recorded?).
They also said that this gets reported to their support staff and that you may be contacted for additional information.

My theory is, is that if you do not have that additional information, the report will be ignored; if they even consider it an issue to respond to the one reporting in the first place.

Because of that one sentence about "them" seeking additional information, this tells me that they will not even be collecting statistics (this is an email/message tool).

This is just a support ticket hyper tool; if support sees something of interest, they will email the one who did the reporting and ask for more information; 99% of the time, people will not have any additional "proof" information to provide - this is why it is limited to 5 per day.

This is a smoke screen.

(fair to say that this is a more convenient reporting tool than email - but contact will be assured if the reporting any given day adds up to a possible investigation).

Edited by Aphoticus, 20 October 2015 - 05:43 AM.

[SaltBeef]

GL HF .........I report U man! LOL. Just keep it civil, ChurchHouse talk, No Issuss. I come from a Free Speech Country that is getting pretty sick of Political Correctness in all of its forms. Do not bradcast into free speech country if yah Don't not like free speech.

[Almond Brown]

3 days with 5 reports in each from the same player will likely have that player issued a Warning to stop Trolling the system. NO worries though. Someone, who will remain unnamed at this time will likely prove that for us all in just 3 days from now.

Stay tuned for the associated Whine thread...

[Clit Beastwood]

Sjorpha, on 20 October 2015 - 04:30 AM, said:

Agreed.

If you are the last mech on your team and the enemy has several fresh mechs running into the enemy is just as much suicide as running out of bounds is. None of those should be punishable as the only alternative is hiding until the match ends which is even more annoying.

If the win is already secured beyond doubt suicide is the best thing the remaining players can do, that way everyone gets into the next match quicker.

It's still cowardice either way - just play the game or don't bother dropping. You won't get better if you roll over every time the game gets hard.

[Bishop Steiner]

Whatzituyah, on 19 October 2015 - 10:13 PM, said:

Please someone from PGI their has to be some exceptions to what you can be reported for example Non-Constructive. Is saying "GG" going to get you in trouble because its technically is non-constructive for the game at the moment?

it means you are reported. Then PGI has to look at report and determine if it has merit.

Hopefully they will reduce or remove reporting privileges from butthurts who cry over people saying GG

[Jetfire]

Kilo 40, on 20 October 2015 - 12:27 AM, said:

you don't. and you never ever will.

you also don't know if they do that now.

so you'll have to rely on your logic and ask yourself "would a free to play game "just decide" to mass ban people for no real reason at all?" and see what you come up with.

And in the end even pay2play games with sub fees retain the authority to ban as they see fit. Basically no one is going to fire a customer unless keeping that customer is worse for business than firing them.

Don't be a bigger PITA than what you are worth and you are fine.

Edited by Jetfire, 20 October 2015 - 08:51 AM.

[Jetfire]

SaltBeef, on 20 October 2015 - 06:02 AM, said:

GL HF .........I report U man! LOL. Just keep it civil, ChurchHouse talk, No Issuss. I come from a Free Speech Country that is getting pretty sick of Political Correctness in all of its forms. Do not bradcast into free speech country if yah Don't not like free speech.

Free speech works both ways (right to say stuff and right to complain about people saying stuff) and has nothing to do with companies.

[Peter2k]

Troutmonkey, on 20 October 2015 - 12:12 AM, said:

I've been reported for spamming chat once before. All I said was "WARNING: INCOMING MISSILES" which I had macro'd to all chat during the lurmpocalypse.

None of the other rules would cover reporting something like this.

Ohh please
Someone said they're going to report you, or has PGI/Support actually talked to you for real?
There's a huge difference



Hell I bet nothing is going to happen at all as long as not more than one player is reporting the same offender
Just like before

[Elizander]

It'll be just like any other report system.

• Makes the reporter feel better since he could do something about what is frustrating him.
  
• You won't get banned for being reported a few times. You'd have to get a significant amount of reports before PGI even does anything.

[KahnWongFuChung]

This reporting system will be as bad a idea as ghost heat is and it will be abused by those that have the power to ban players unfairly.

If every one was to report Russ and Brian 10 times a day for 30 days would they be banned even though they hardly play the game and we just want to see them on a ban list? This is so stupid of a idea this is for a declining population game that the staff could put there time into fixing this game.

The persons responsible for even considering this should be fired from PGI when there are a 100 bugs/fixes that need to be done to the game first.

Edited by KahnWongFuChung, 20 October 2015 - 11:15 AM.

[Shae Starfyre]

We could all use our 5 reports every day as protest

Edited by Aphoticus, 20 October 2015 - 11:33 AM.

[PurpleNinja]

Just to be clear, you don't speak for me. IMHO PGI gives away too much information.