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[Davegt27]

MY eyes are watering after 3 matches

Before I left for TX, 3 weeks ago things where fine

Not sure what they did but it’s like a different game

[COOL HANDS]

Well what do you gys expect when your on a planet that generates a lot of heat or a planet that's minus 58 below zero, 75 no humidity sunny and clear skies? I personally like the new maps vs the old their more atmospheric than the bland ones we had before. But to each his own.

Edited by COOL HANDS, 21 October 2015 - 03:43 PM.

[Thorqemada]

Well, the Problem is that some guys have a higher visibility at longer range than others and fog/smoke/whatever etc. does not matter to them.
I have looked with a magnifiying glass at my screen and there was nothing but a single shade of Background Grey - when i moved ~150m closer i got a 4 or 5 Pixel that were a Mech that had a different shade of Grey but not b4 that though my Opponent could shot precisely at me...obviously there is a way...

I am fine with my settings as they are, the game looks good and the fps are smooth - my Weaponrange can not match theirs anyway so i stay in cover until an oportunity arises...

"This is a Mechwarrior Game, its also played by Coverds lame, they hide and peek and poke from far, behave like be the Superstar.
Exploit the hell out of Mechanics and if they cant they get in Panics, howl and yell so crazy loud what the "Nerf" is all about.
They do not care for Population, Game or Balancing Salvation, win no matter how and why is all about for what they cry.
And if they Ever Face their Enemy at ranges with Eyes White to see, they start to feel their shaking knee and suddenly become the Giants wee."

Edited by Thorqemada, 21 October 2015 - 04:21 PM.

[Nightmare1]

@OP: I think it might just be you. The only two maps I have trouble seeing on are Forest Colony and Viridian Bog, and then it's mainly because of the inordinate amount of trees and foliage. All the other daylight maps look pretty good to me. I also don't have any problems with Mining Collective. Have you checked your in-game graphics? Maybe you have something wonky going on there. You might also try the repair tool.

[LordKnightFandragon]

Davegt27, on 21 October 2015 - 12:38 PM, said:

I am having the same problems

but after 3 games I just gave up

cant really put my finger on the problem

using night vission on forest seemed to help

The problem is the friggin game itself. Its just so pixelly, hazy, and grey. Everything is shades of grey. everything blends with everything else. Grey mechs against grey buildings, hidden by grey haze....

The ground is grey, the trees are grey, the sky is grey. Only on Bog is there like any light at all. Viewing a mech at distance is a joke.

Last night on Terra Therma, the enemy had like 5 mechs sitting on a ridge above me. It literally looked like nothing was up there. Black mechs against a black background, there literally was no seeing ****. Thisgame has some of the worst lighting or shading or something, that ive EVER seen. No game ever have I ever had issues picking out targets from very long ranges, almost instantly.

Planetside 2, I can spot a guy from max render distance. its so much brighter, there is a lack of haze. The colors are not grey, on top of grey, on top of grey with a side order of grey.

Even old Medal of honor, old Wolfenstein, no game ever has the lighting of MWO....

[JC Daxion]

Inveramsay, on 21 October 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

Too much fog on every map or too dei shadows. I find that I'm relying so much on shooting the targeted mechanical because I can't see them otherwise. It is a fun game but deeply frustrating not being able to see properly. Hpg is awful as is the new forest, not that the old one was a wonder for visibility either. Pgi really needs to dial down the fog

Yea, it does seam like something has changed with fog as of late..

Salvag3, on 21 October 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

Does this problem happen with any other games ? I only ask because it seems it might be the way your eyes are having problems with the color being used. Maybe playing with the contrast or color settings of the monitor itself could help you out. ( not that I'm saying there's anything wrong with you bear in mind. I just know that each of us sees our own version of color )

Not at all.. And this game up till they started updating maps this summer i had zero issue..

LT. HARDCASE, on 21 October 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

I'm actually a fan, of having some maps with lower visibility.

Why should every map be a clear day with a blue sky? Different environment, with different conditions, actually add variety to the game.

Lower visibility is one thing.. But a lot of this is not a low visiblity issue, It is a shading, lighting issue.. If i get times this weekend, i will take some screenies to show exactly what im talking about. I have read many of the patch notes, and the visuals seem directly related to the so called Visual updates they have been doing. I may not have played much since late july, but i have been following the game, and patches and all that sorta stuff. Out side of a random late night match where beer was involved, which is why i haven't really posted anything earlier, i have not played for a 3-4 hour stretch in the last bunch of months.

Ted Wayz, on 21 October 2015 - 03:10 PM, said:

Don't take this wrong but when was the last time you had your eyes checked? I can get by without my glasses, but with them the definition is so much better.

Not at an eye doctor, but like i said, i have 20/20 vision, but do have a bit of night issues with glares and rain.. But perhaps they new lighting is effecting my eyes the same way? It is very hard to say..

Nightmare1, on 21 October 2015 - 05:33 PM, said:

@OP: I think it might just be you. The only two maps I have trouble seeing on are Forest Colony and Viridian Bog, and then it's mainly because of the inordinate amount of trees and foliage. All the other daylight maps look pretty good to me. I also don't have any problems with Mining Collective. Have you checked your in-game graphics? Maybe you have something wonky going on there. You might also try the repair tool.

I actually run the repair tool after every major update, which is basically 2 times a month (if i'm playing), i don't do it for hot fixes. But yea, i ran the repair tool right after Tuesdays patch which found no errors.. I started playing right after i updated and ran the tool, so as far as i can tell, my install is fine.,

It is possible, that there is something going on with my drivers, or settings, which is why i made the post.. This computer i build almost 2 years ago now, but i really don't have the cash to upgrade the vid card again. At my settings i can play at 40 FPS, but some of the advice with turning up graphic settings i can't do due to frame rates..

So perhaps it has something to do with the new shaders/lighting they are using.. Mainly the reason why i made this thread to see if others using the same card, or similar are having issues at these lower graphical settings.


Again. like i was saying,, the Night vision is noticeably different on these maps than others.. which is directly related to lighting updates.. (im not a graphics engineer, but i'm pretty sure, that is a main issue with how night vision works right?)

I will post pictures this weekend.. i hope i can get some time to do this, Just to compare and show exactly what i am talking about. Perhaps it is a settings thing, or it is just the newer graphics they are updating too. Maybe a higher end video card, with higher settings will make things different.

But the fact remains, that if the game is also meant to be played at lower settings, and lower end video cards, then maybe the graphics needs to be tweaked at these settings. What might look perfectly fine at high end settings, are very different at lower end. If the game is meant to support these lower end settings, then it should also be playable at them. Which is really all i am saying.


I know this game has gone through changes at lower end, since i started playing, as my first computer i played this on was an 8500 duo core, with a GTX9800, when they jumped to 12 man groups, i could not play for almost 4 months till it was optimized. A year later i built my new computer, and i noticed massive improvement.

Now again my semi lower end system with these graphical changes is again having issues.. It very well could be directly related to optimizing the lower end settings in the game.



Again, i will update this thread with some pictures.. and i would ask, anyone else having issues, Post your Hardware, and take some screenies to show exactly what we are talking about. After we get some lower end pictures posted here,, I hope people with higher end system can post some pictures of the same area, with high end settings to show the comparison.


Just a side note, This is not a rant, about I quit. Sorry if the title made it seem like that,, I was more saying, if i can't see what to shoot, i can't play. Its more a concerned post about making sure the game is playable by all under the settings that the game is meant to be played under. And if this is truly all about the vid card, my hardware, and the setting i have to play under.. i might just have to wait till they fix things and get them more optimized under lower end settings, or i can upgrade down the road. Because if it is strictly a hard ware thing, as much as it pains me, i might have to take another break, to save some money, and upgrade my system, or wait for better lowend optimization.

thanks for reading, and the advice..

Edited by JC Daxion, 22 October 2015 - 11:13 AM.