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#1 M3 SABLE

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:23 PM

I found that people have a pretty good foresight about unreleased mechs on the forum; even though i am a pretty rare visitor.

The latter resistance collection was declared full of "meh" mechs from the beginnin; and it kinda turned out that way. They are not bad, but... nothing fun or unique like Gladiator with MASC. (though that stuff could be called mediocre by many too)

What do the specialists think of the incoming Origins collection, Marauder, and Warhammer?

Anything interesting there?


I have a hard time getting excited about things in MWO atm.

Edited by Unikron, 21 October 2015 - 11:25 PM.


#2 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:29 PM

View PostUnikron, on 21 October 2015 - 11:23 PM, said:

I found that people have a pretty good foresight about unreleased mechs.

The latter resistance collection was declared full of "meh" mechs from the beginning on the forums; and it kinda turned out that way. They are not bad, but... nothing fun or unique like Gladiator with MASC. (though that stuff could be called mediocre by many too)

What do the specialists think of the incoming Origins collection, Marauder, and Warhammer?

Anything interesting there?

Depends on your definition.

Origins is Clan Tech Weapons and gear, with IS Customization. So even without knowing for sure the hitboxes and exact hardpoint placement for everything, it's going to be pretty potent.

Jenner IIC may be the next Meta Light.
HBK-IIC well, if a person likes hunchbacks, here's one that jumps and has a clan XL.
The Orion, hard to say, it'll have low weapons, mostly, but then, so does the Timberwolf. Could go either way, but still probably better than almost any IS Heavy.
Highlander IIC? Hoverjets are still going to be a handicap, some decent hardpoints, though.

Marauder, has some hillpoke potential, with it's torso weapons, but... gonna be tough call on those ST hitboxes. Probably not XL friendly.

Warhammer.... almost nothing will be meta located. It should be a lot of fun...if you like diverse builds. Hitboxes are anyone's guess, but it's my fave mech, so I'm getting it anyhow. But who knows if it'll XL....my money is probably not real well.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:32 PM

I bought the Hunchback 2C and once its out will most likely be all I play.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:33 PM

Hmmmm

IS mechs stuffed with Clan stuff sounds pretty intimidating.


Also, Warhammer and Marauder are going to be equipped like Clan mechs right?

Edited by Unikron, 21 October 2015 - 11:34 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:34 PM

View PostDuke ramulots, on 21 October 2015 - 11:32 PM, said:

I bought the Hunchback 2C and once its out will most likely be all I play.

planning on running a jumping version of my IS HBK..single C-UAC20, 2xC-MPL, hopefully with a 250 or more, XL.

Not as exciting as two big Dakka, but I really don't think it will be too sustainable trying to use both, unless maybe with 2xUAC10.

View PostUnikron, on 21 October 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Hmmmm

IS mechs stuffed with Clan stuff sounds pretty intimidating.


Also, Warhammer and Marauder are going to be equipped like Clan mechs right?

No, Warhammer and Marauder are pure IS tech.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:37 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

planning on running a jumping version of my IS HBK..single C-UAC20, 2xC-MPL, hopefully with a 250 or more, XL.

Not as exciting as two big Dakka, but I really don't think it will be too sustainable trying to use both, unless maybe with 2xUAC10.


No, Warhammer and Marauder are pure IS tech.



Oh, nice.

For some reason, I have a hard time enjoying clan stuff aside 1-2 of the models.


Though, isn't Marauder a Starleague era mech that is supposed to be more advanced than IS tech of the current timeline?

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:40 PM

View PostUnikron, on 21 October 2015 - 11:37 PM, said:



Oh, nice.

For some reason, I have a hard time enjoying clan stuff aside 1-2 of the models.


Though, isn't Marauder a Starleague era mech that is supposed to be more advanced than IS tech of the current timeline?

Yes and no...it was cutting edge at the end of the Star League, but the recovered tech level of the Clan Invasion game era is equivalent to all but what the SLDF Royal Brigades fielded. So no new tech needed.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:41 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 21 October 2015 - 11:34 PM, said:

planning on running a jumping version of my IS HBK..single C-UAC20, 2xC-MPL, hopefully with a 250 or more, XL.

Not as exciting as two big Dakka, but I really don't think it will be too sustainable trying to use both, unless maybe with 2xUAC10.



I have a feeling that 2xGauss will be a thing I do regularly on one of my hunchies.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:42 PM

View PostDuke ramulots, on 21 October 2015 - 11:41 PM, said:

I have a feeling that 2xGauss will be a thing I do regularly on one of my hunchies.

yeah, haven't warmed to gauss, myself. But strip the arms, and the lasers, all but 1-2 JJ, should do it OK.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:44 PM

If you liked any of the Jenner/Hunchback/Orion.Highlanders, then you will love the Origins pack.

As for the Marauder and Warhammer, they are nostalgia mechs, nothing more. I am more looking forward to the Timberwolf hero. Finally a Clan hero that doesn't cost $55USD to own.
One omnimech a-la-Carte equals to the cost of a AAA title, so crazy. :wacko:

Edited by El Bandito, 21 October 2015 - 11:47 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 11:46 PM

View PostUnikron, on 21 October 2015 - 11:37 PM, said:



Oh, nice.

For some reason, I have a hard time enjoying clan stuff aside 1-2 of the models.


Though, isn't Marauder a Starleague era mech that is supposed to be more advanced than IS tech of the current timeline?


Think the 2R variant was the "advanced star league" model that would be lostech with its ERPPC's and DHS. but the common 3R does not seem to have anything that would be lost in the succession wars.

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 12:27 AM

I want the Jen IIC- should be a fun light. the rest of the mechs not really interested. non jumping Highlander disappointing, haven't used a Highlander since the jump jet nerf, just don't jump anymore, heh!

#13 Alex Gorsky

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 12:48 AM

View PostUnikron, on 21 October 2015 - 11:23 PM, said:

What do the specialists think of the incoming Origins collection, Marauder, and Warhammer?

Anything interesting there?


nope...we need 20\40 weight class

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 01:22 AM

Hunch-IIC & Jenner-IIC are going to be the winners out of all of em.

Orion-IIC will have more firepower than the IS version, but its going to have the exact same flaws, being no shield arms, big easy to hit Dorito LT and RT, XL surviveability will help some, Its not going to be amazing.

Highlander-IIC, I havn't seen the IS Highlander perform well for about a year, can't see that changing much even with clantech.

Marauder will probably play alot like the Cataphract, might actually be a half decent mech, we'll have to see just how low its arms are though, even though, its torso's will be easy targets.

Warhammer, its going to play alot like the Orion, maybe slightly better geometry, but gorilla arms are gorilla arms, probably will work well as a ballistic mech with its decent chest high points,

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 02:10 AM

View PostUnikron, on 21 October 2015 - 11:22 PM, said:

I found that people have a pretty good foresight about unreleased mechs.

The latter resistance collection was declared full of "meh" mechs from the beginning on the forums; and it kinda turned out that way. They are not bad, but... nothing fun or unique like Gladiator with MASC. (though that stuff could be called mediocre by many too)

What do the specialists think of the incoming Origins collection, Marauder, and Warhammer?

Anything interesting there?

Resistance mech meh?
Sorry but what?

The Wolfhound is a solid fast guy who can bite back without being OP like the firestarter.
The Crab is a battlemech resilient for his class who can also deal a lot of damage when used has an harrasser and who can do the damage sponge.
The Black Knight can ruin the day of lots of mech he can encounter including Timber Wolves and Dire Wolves.
The Mauler can be a very nice gun boat tooand is to not underestimate.

They are not "Meta" and that's better. Theses guys say they are meh because not tier 1 thunderbolts that can be one man army.

Theses guys saying theses mechs would be Meh are not to listen to in anyway.

And for the unseen. They will be interesting to play.and to customise. Can't wait to see them.

Edited by KuroNyra, 22 October 2015 - 02:11 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 02:12 AM

Origins: HBK pack is a must have.

Onion IIC can dual Gauss but only move about 70kph because of STD engine.

HGN-IIC has stupid E-hardpoints placement on the left torso. Now you don't have to sacrifice firepower to be able to jump and move at max speed. Can boat LRMs like WHK but moves slower (but can jump and carry a BIG "backup" weapon).





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