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[cSand]

DarthRevis, on 23 October 2015 - 10:36 AM, said:

Saying you should have killed a ACH with SRM's is a joke, SRMs are very bad and on something with small hit boxes you are better off just spreading lasers all over the mech...its the same effect as SRMs.

Why?

I can kill Ravens, Firestarters, Jenners, Panthers, Mist Lynkx, Adders, etc etc etc with SRMS any day of the week

I don't need any play advice here, I know what I can do and what I should be able to do. And ramming 24 artemis SRMS and an AC20 square into the back of Cheetah, should do more than just yellow its torsos a bit. Whether that's a ACH thing or just hitreg in that particular match.. who knows. I do know I have few issues with other fast mechs (FS was problematic when first released tho) so that leads me to believe hitreg only plays so much a part. My ping is around 100 generally. I'll admit I dunno what the ping of the other player was so maybe he was doing that Euro-dance and magically avoiding all hits. I only play on NA servers.

SRMs aren't as bad as people think, you just gotta learn to lead targets properly. I watched a guy aiming directly at his target and firing em off, obviously burying them in the mountainside behind the target. Then a the end of the match he goes "srms suck, they never hit". They sure don't, firing em like that!

Edited by cSand, 23 October 2015 - 12:00 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Shooting the back '*********' and the high torso points from the rear all do damage to the front.

[CDLord HHGD]

cSand, on 23 October 2015 - 08:22 AM, said:

Yes

I'm a pretty decent shot with SRMs and large AC cause I use them so much and have noticed that shots that clearly hit, that should fold a little mech in half, now are barely doing any damage

I remember hitting a Commando in closed beta with a AC20 and I swear the little guy went spread-eagle as both arms flew off and the torso exploded. Best day of my MWO life.

[cSand]

cdlord, on 23 October 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

I remember hitting a Commando in closed beta with a AC20 and I swear the little guy went spread-eagle as both arms flew off and the torso exploded. Best day of my MWO life.

Amen. I remember getting my first Orion with the AC20. Little Jenner runs in front of me, I land a good hit and he goes cartwheeling off the cliff in Frozen City. So satisfying.

ACH should be just as susceptible to a severe ass whoopin

High caliber AC's (20, UAC20, LB20x... hell make the LBx 10 more viable and give it some knockin power) should knock lights off their ass since they are so hard to hit with them anyways

Edited by cSand, 23 October 2015 - 12:17 PM.

[CDLord HHGD]

cSand, on 23 October 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Amen. I remember getting my first Orion with the AC20. Little Jenner runs in front of me, I land a good hit and he goes cartwheeling off the cliff in Frozen City. So satisfying.

ACH should be just as susceptible to a severe ass whoopin

High caliber AC's (20, UAC20) should knock lights off their ass since they are so hard to hit with them anyways

GASP! Physics??? Perish the thought!

[cSand]

cdlord, on 23 October 2015 - 12:13 PM, said:

GASP! Physics??? Perish the thought!

I know right. Who do I think I am, some kinda revolutionary here?

In fact I am going to propse this idea in a brand new thread

Edited by cSand, 23 October 2015 - 12:17 PM.

[Aresye]

Torgun, on 23 October 2015 - 10:32 AM, said:

They're out for CBills now, so it's much more likely PGI are willing to look at problems with the hitboxes now.

PGI looked at the hitboxes TWICE already, and both times said they couldn't find any issues. Many players have tested the hitboxes in private matches, and they didn't find any issues.

Every player so far that's linked a video showing, "Broken ACH Hitboxes," has been debunked, most often for pilot error (aka: they didn't hit where they thought they did), and the 1 or 2 videos that can't be explained as pilot error, could be explained by just general poor hitreg, which this game is notorious for.

- You can say the ACH needs nerfed because of Clan XL.
- You can say hitreg needs to be improved.
- You can say the ACH hitboxes should be enlarged to compensate for the game's poor hitreg.
- You can say the ACH needs its weapons and/or heat nerfed.
- You can say the ACH needs to lose its quirked leg armor.

- You CANNOT say the ACH has broken hitboxes.

[Revis Volek]

cSand, on 23 October 2015 - 11:52 AM, said:

Why?

I can kill Ravens, Firestarters, Jenners, Panthers, Mist Lynkx, Adders, etc etc etc with SRMS any day of the week

I don't need any play advice here, I know what I can do and what I should be able to do. And ramming 24 artemis SRMS and an AC20 square into the back of Cheetah, should do more than just yellow its torsos a bit. Whether that's a ACH thing or just hitreg in that particular match.. who knows. I do know I have few issues with other fast mechs (FS was problematic when first released tho) so that leads me to believe hitreg only plays so much a part. My ping is around 100 generally. I'll admit I dunno what the ping of the other player was so maybe he was doing that Euro-dance and magically avoiding all hits. I only play on NA servers.

SRMs aren't as bad as people think, you just gotta learn to lead targets properly. I watched a guy aiming directly at his target and firing em off, obviously burying them in the mountainside behind the target. Then a the end of the match he goes "srms suck, they never hit". They sure don't, firing em like that!

i wasnt giving you play advice the exact opposite. I was comparing them to an equally bad tactic or lack there of...i could care less to give anyone here advice. I saying they are junk in comparison to other weapons and I cant even count the amount of time what you are saying happend to me on more mech then just the ACH.


But like Mischief said, the top portions of a ACH back istn actually the back...so unless all those SRMs and the AC20 hit a area smaller then the cockpit of the ACH you DID NOT hit all back.

[FupDup]

Aresye Kerensky, on 23 October 2015 - 12:20 PM, said:

- You can say the ACH hitboxes should be enlarged to compensate for the game's poor hitreg.

Please no, we already saw this happen to the Raven for the exact same reason.

[cSand]

DarthRevis, on 23 October 2015 - 12:21 PM, said:

But like Mischief said, the top portions of a ACH back istn actually the back...so unless all those SRMs and the AC20 hit a area smaller then the cockpit of the ACH you DID NOT hit all back.

That may explain it. But that thing sure got off easy from a 68 point alpha

[TheStrider]

Just aim for the arms first. They pop off like candy.

TASTY candy.

Unless you are the candy, then you are sad.