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[DAYLEET]

FupDup, on 26 October 2015 - 07:37 PM, said:

Well, most of its construction choices follow the design philosophy of a light mech rather than a medium mech...it's like a Clan Cicada.

Just like the Cicada, it's a fairly mediocre robbit. Clan superlasers can at least make it presentable, fortunately.

Seen like that i agree that it's a light mech. The CDA is as good as any other meds, it however requires a different style of play that isnt as easy and you just can't be lazy with it like the boaters. Im happy we have mech that are made for different people.

MeiSooHaityu, on 27 October 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

Another thing it shares with the Cicada is its ugliness.

oh you... come here while i nick this already rusted knife for extra pain.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

DAYLEET, on 27 October 2015 - 08:54 AM, said:

The CDA is as good as any other meds

Naw dude, naw.

The CDA is not at the level of a WVR-6K or BJ-1X. Now if we are talking other meds like the bad BJs, Vindis, or some of the Trebs, then yes. There are plenty of better meds than the Cicada though, the Fridge included.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 27 October 2015 - 08:59 AM.

[DAYLEET]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 27 October 2015 - 08:57 AM, said:

Naw dude, naw.

The CDA is not at the level of a WVR-6K or BJ-1X.

Because you look at the firepower and disregard everything else. Youd probably tell me when i do 300 damage in my 2erppc panther i didnt do better than a laser boating light who did 600damage.

Also the 6k isnt great, it's cheesy thantks to the quirks and they are going away.

Edited by DAYLEET, 27 October 2015 - 09:04 AM.

[pbiggz]

The thing has 9.5 tonnes of pod space good luck trying to find something meaningful to do with it, its less versatile then a cicada. Its a 40 ton light mech. It's pointless.

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

pbiggz, on 27 October 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

The thing has 9.5 tonnes of pod space good luck trying to find something meaningful to do with it, its less versatile then a cicada. Its a 40 ton light mech. It's pointless.

45 tons, actually. Havent played it in a while ( so many new mechs to play ) but just loaded up a match in solo que, first match of the day. 4 er meds srm6 on the prime. Just racked up a few kills/assists with 657 damage, it is by no means a bad mech, just misunderstood.

"There are no bad mech's in mechwarrior, only bad players."

[Water Bear]

Alwrath, on 27 October 2015 - 09:07 AM, said:

"There are no bad mech's in mechwarrior, only bad players."

No, there are definitely bad mechs. What if there existed a clone of you and he took a BJ-1x. Who would win, you in your Ice Ferget or your evil doppleganger in his BJ?

I hate this sentiment because obviously player skill trumps mech quality when skill is allowed to vary. If the best chess player in the world beats a guy at the local park after starting his game with only 6 pieces on the board, does that mean that starting with 6 pieces is a good strategy in chess? You'd have to have pretty poor reasoning skills to think so.

Why make the same logical error when talking about 'mechs?

[Quicksilver Aberration]

DAYLEET, on 27 October 2015 - 09:00 AM, said:

Because you look at the firepower and disregard everything else. Youd probably tell me when i do 300 damage in my 2erppc panther i didnt do better than a laser boating light who did 600damage.

Also the 6k isnt great, it's cheesy thantks to the quirks and they are going away.

No, I'd tell you it isn't great because it doesn't have good enough quirks/hitboxes like the BJ-1X which is much better for any lasers.

Also, yes, if something is doing twice as much damage as you, then you probably weren't as effective as you like to think. Laser boats may spread, but they shouldn't spread that much.

[Lugh]

El Bandito, on 26 October 2015 - 06:29 PM, said:

Can't go wrong with CERML boat. Simply cannot.

Only the IF does the CMPL boat even better .... fast hitting beats range for fast movers.

[Alwrathandabout42ninjas]

Water Bear, on 27 October 2015 - 09:16 AM, said:

No, there are definitely bad mechs. What if there existed a clone of you and he took a BJ-1x. Who would win, you in your Ice Ferget or your evil doppleganger in his BJ?

I hate this sentiment because obviously player skill trumps mech quality when skill is allowed to vary. If the best chess player in the world beats a guy at the local park after starting his game with only 6 pieces on the board, does that mean that starting with 6 pieces is a good strategy in chess? You'd have to have pretty poor reasoning skills to think so.

Why make the same logical error when talking about 'mechs?

1 on 1 assuming both pilots are equal skill Ice ferret would win. More speed and better range clan lasers. The BJ would never get in range.

[TyphonCh]

Obadiah333, on 27 October 2015 - 08:19 AM, said:

'Big toe crossed with a refrigerator." Can't stop laughing. Most accurate mech description ever!

Bwahahaha my girlfriend actually came up with that! She said it's the ugliest thing she's ever seen

MeiSooHaityu, on 27 October 2015 - 04:47 AM, said:

Another thing it shares with the Cicada is its ugliness.

BOO!! HISSSSS!!!! Cicada is a way nicer model! It even has cute little wings that come out when it falls

Edited by Team Chevy86, 27 October 2015 - 10:51 AM.

[Obadiah333]

Team Chevy86, on 27 October 2015 - 10:45 AM, said:

Bwahahaha my girlfriend actually came up with that! She said it's the ugliest thing she's ever seen

Well it's pretty obvious that she's never met my ex wife then.

[Revis Volek]

Mcgral18, on 26 October 2015 - 06:47 PM, said:

Forget the Prime exists and ignore the Cbill bonus.

Best Ferret advice i have seen yet....

Water Bear, on 26 October 2015 - 07:30 PM, said:

Not to be that guy, but this thing appears to be the best clan light. I've seen plenty that lose lots of body parts before going down.

If it's not working for you, try one of the above builds in this thread or reconsider your general strategies as a light pilot.

Except it a medium and its is NO WHERE close to being the best. SCR anyone?

Its also not better then the ACH...

Best thing it has going for it is decent hit boxes and its pretty tanky. Load up SRMs and go splatting or 4 Er meds and just keep moving! Its plays like a light with no JJ's but its tanks much better then most lights.


Also OP, There are BAD Clam mechs with FF and Endo, MLX is another i think.

Edited by DarthRevis, 27 October 2015 - 11:34 AM.

[Mcgral18]

pbiggz, on 27 October 2015 - 09:05 AM, said:

The thing has 9.5 tonnes of pod space good luck trying to find something meaningful to do with it, its less versatile then a cicada. Its a 40 ton light mech. It's pointless.

If it had 6 E hardpoints, 6 cSPLs and 14 heatsinks with a TC1 would be adequate; cooler than the Cheetah with marginally more armour (dem +15 legs on the Cheetah).

[Ted Wayz]

I have fun in mechs that I know are not considered good, like the Vindi. The IF isn't one of them.

I do well in mechs that others say are DOA, like the Kintaro. The IF isn't one of them.

For me the mech offers nothing that I can't get better in another mech. The initials are appropriate though, IF. As in, IF only I was playing another mech.

[C E Dwyer]

streaks or srms with medium pulse lasers

[Zordicron]

"How do I load out this clan mech?"

lololol. ERML. Can it mount more than 2? Then firepower options aren't the issue. In lasergank online, lasers or bust.

That aside, the IF is just fine as a clan light, maybe even better than most of them(Cheetos don't count, thats a whole different level). "it's a medium." NO, it's not, and if you play it as one you will fail, sort of like every Cicada loadout ever(minus some real novelty crap that "I can do 900 dmg and 7 kills in all day" guy that always shows up)

IF has speed, and it has lasers. Put on your light mech hat, and ninja backstab it up. Peek a boo will kill you, you are tall like Godzilla. It's light mech time! Run, run, run, backstab, run, run, run. Chase your ECM Cheeto pal around and shoot red doritos with him. Hang out by your DWF pal, wait for him to engage and draw attention, sneak out and focus fire with him. Mount UAV's and use the speed to plant them behind the enemy flank. You know, be a light mech.

Hitbox etc? It's not that bad. it feels squishy, because it is 45 tons! lol, it's not a timewarp armor EZ mode Cheeto, so yeah, when someone in their t-bolt sees you and sticks you in the shoulder with 7 MPL, your in for a bad time.

I mean, c'mon man, just cause it isn't clammer EZ mode level, doesn't make it bad. It's not a Myth Lanx after all.

[1Grimbane]

Am i the only player loving and doing well in the lynx, i tore up two ach's yesterday with the mist prime 4 ermed on it, it's a commando with jets

Edited by 1Grimbane, 27 October 2015 - 09:09 PM.

[Mystere]

DAYLEET, on 26 October 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

It's not a light mech...

But I use it as one anyway.

[LordNothing]

just put 5 medium lasers on it and let the pewnage begin.

[Karl Marlow]

I didn't play line much but iirc I was using it as an anti-light. It seems like a clan cicada but it's not. It feels strange. Maybe it would feel more correct when elited. As for build I think I was doing some sort of streak and small laser setup.

It was ok but never wowed me.