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[sycocys]

Something I've pondered about for a while and haven't found any good conclusion to why it is - but the quality of play/players the further away you are from peak NA hours is pretty atrocious.

And its not just concerning event times, its normally just plain bad.

Two lances + the heavy that drops with the assaults running to the opposite side of the map is normal during these hours, as is 9 out of 12 players running opposite direction immediately after someone puts up a uav showing right where the entire rest of the enemy team is.

WTF is this firing line that guy just suggested?

Entire lances getting decimated by 1 lrm boat.

.... I just don't get it. As soon as NA starts picking up the quality of play even just dropping solo increases so dramatically you wouldn't even guess you were playing the same game as you were 6-8 hours before. Even when you drop in to matches full of T4/5s they understand the basic concepts of focus fire, cover from LRMs, and not turning your back on the enemy force.

Sort of ranty, but I just can't understand how it can be so completely bad during the off peak hours. Just purely un-enjoyable to play during the daytime.

Edited by sycocys, 29 October 2015 - 07:04 AM.

[Kotzi]

This is rhetorical, right?

[saKhan Steiner Lawl Kerensky]

You're correct in your observations.

It's two play styles, NA peak hours are usually more aggressive team play, while EU times are usually more NASCAR/peekaboo solo attitude.

The only thing I can suggest while playing during EU times, is never play a slow mech, they'll leave you in the NASCAR race... and bring ECM/AMS for your protetion, or missiles/NARC/cBAP to use against them.

[sycocys]

Yes, no, maybe.

I just can't understand how or why the quality of play is so insanely bad during off peak - it really doesn't make any sense that it should be that much different than during the peak hours. The game is exactly the same but the players/skill levels are... I don't even know if I can come up with a proper term for it - terrible, is as close as I can get.

[Kira Onime]

NA game style is pretty different from EU.

NA is much more aggressive compared to the passive EU play.

[Kotzi]

I got shitt... games and great games changing within the evening i play. There are days i feel like a living atlas smashing infantry and days like a legged locust, not 1 victory the whole day no matter my performance.

[Mister Blastman]

sycocys, on 29 October 2015 - 07:03 AM, said:

Something I've pondered about for a while and haven't found any good conclusion to why it is - but the quality of play/players the further away you are from peak NA hours is pretty atrocious.

And its not just concerning event times, its normally just plain bad.

Two lances + the heavy that drops with the assaults running to the opposite side of the map is normal during these hours, as is 9 out of 12 players running opposite direction immediately after someone puts up a uav showing right where the entire rest of the enemy team is.

WTF is this firing line that guy just suggested?

Entire lances getting decimated by 1 lrm boat.

.... I just don't get it. As soon as NA starts picking up the quality of play even just dropping solo increases so dramatically you wouldn't even guess you were playing the same game as you were 6-8 hours before. Even when you drop in to matches full of T4/5s they understand the basic concepts of focus fire, cover from LRMs, and not turning your back on the enemy force.

Sort of ranty, but I just can't understand how it can be so completely bad during the off peak hours. Just purely un-enjoyable to play during the daytime.

I've been saying this for a while...



The truth is out there...

Frankly I think it is a couple of reasons...

1. Kids. American kids (12 - 22 years old) are punkasses with an attitude and they're on during the day. Good luck getting them to co-operate at anything. It wasn't like this when I was a kid in college but that was two decades ago. I blame hippies.

2. Western Europeans can be strange. They play... differently. I blame France.

I think it is a combination of the two. The experience is definitely far worse during daytime American hours, though. It is a nightmare. But I too have noticed once NA primetime hours show up, the quality of games improves... to a point. You still end up with teams full of this...



It can even happen five times in a row. But it isn't the full "wtf" feeling you get playing during the day.

[sycocys]

It really isn't the play styles that bother me at all - thats easy to adapt to.

Blasterman states it maybe more clearly than I do - every match is a full "wtf" feeling.

And yeah, even in NA peaks you get rolls sometimes consecutive like he says, but rarely do you ever have that feeling.

Lots of contributing factors honestly, but the skill level is incredibly lower even if MM is putting same tiers together.

[adamts01]

I recently moved away from the na servers and can now only play on Oceanic. There is a huge difference in players. I think it's just because the game is finally playable due to the new server and the players are just new to the game. I miss the NA servers. My ping is just too bad, even for a missile boat. The other thing is that most players are in NA so prime time there will give you matches closer to your own skill due to more players for matchmaker to work with. Out here is sad. Its an absolute roll every match. I either play my light and see how it goes or bring my try hard timby and carry. I need to find a game where ping isn't so important until this server gets more players. If it gets more players.

[STEF_]

Kira Onime, on 29 October 2015 - 07:15 AM, said:

NA game style is pretty different from EU.

NA is much more aggressive compared to the passive EU play.

So, why the most aggressive and pushing pilots I know are EU?

[Simbacca]

sycocys, on 29 October 2015 - 07:27 AM, said:

It really isn't the play styles that bother me at all - thats easy to adapt to.

Blasterman states it maybe more clearly than I do - every match is a full "wtf" feeling.

And yeah, even in NA peaks you get rolls sometimes consecutive like he says, but rarely do you ever have that feeling.

Lots of contributing factors honestly, but the skill level is incredibly lower even if MM is putting same tiers together.

These variable quality matches is indicative of the underlying problems within matchmaker/PSR itself.

[Kira Onime]

Stefka Kerensky, on 29 October 2015 - 07:50 AM, said:

So, why the most aggressive and pushing pilots I know are EU?

idunknow

Could also be top players know what works and then it splits up.

[STEF_]

Kira Onime, on 29 October 2015 - 08:26 AM, said:

idunknow

Could also be top players know what works and then it splits up.

Yes, indeed.

Imo, NA top players are more, because of NA higher population.

I like ball'sdeep and I tend to join with other players who like hard push brawl.
We are not so many, though

[Davers]

I wouldn't have thought that the servers would have such a different playstyle. It's only been a few months since everyone was playing together, and many people still pick multiple servers.

[Mister Blastman]

Davers, on 29 October 2015 - 08:38 AM, said:

I wouldn't have thought that the servers would have such a different playstyle. It's only been a few months since everyone was playing together, and many people still pick multiple servers.

I stopped picking EU and Oceanic the day they let me pick. But we still get players from other regions due to the population sizes, much like Elite Dangerous is mostly made up of Europeans and less Americans. Different regions enjoy different types of games.

Funny fact: Many of the games I enjoy the most are also enjoyed by Europeans--things such as flight simulators and space combat games. It makes it harder for me to play them online, though.

[totgeboren]

Lansid, on 29 October 2015 - 07:08 AM, said:

You're correct in your observations.

It's two play styles, NA peak hours are usually more aggressive team play, while EU times are usually more NASCAR/peekaboo solo attitude.

The only thing I can suggest while playing during EU times, is never play a slow mech, they'll leave you in the NASCAR race... and bring ECM/AMS for your protetion, or missiles/NARC/cBAP to use against them.

I could say the exact same thing but use different words. "NA peak hours are more deathball-the-middle while EU times are more about manoeuvre and using the terrain".

But anyway, I think the NA population is much higher giving the MM an easier time matching pilots. I also think most EU players drop on both servers. I do at least, and I can't say I have seen much difference between EU games and NA games.

[1Grimbane]

lol blame the french....... i like that. maybe because 'Murica is better and the eruo's are really weird people, that's my guess but what do i know i'm just some 30yr old white male... the most vilified entity on the planet right now

[sycocys]

Its not the server locations, or even so much where the players are from - its the skill level of the players that populate at these off peak NA times.

The quality of the level of play takes a dive off a cliff outside of NA peak hours and a few hours on either side of that.

[Amsro]

I would say the main difference between games in peak hours and games during the day is the lower player count causing MM to troll hard.

That is the only sane theory I can come up with.

[Mudhutwarrior]

I think the EU has some of the best overall players. I can actualy see individual skills there more often as the NA players all merge into the team kill thing. Then you just see who is better at twitch. The EU guys don't take it a serious either and you don't see the guys blaming their teammates or whining in chat over what bubba done..

That's what turned me off of the 'Team Game" Guys anyways. They are blind to anything else thats good about the game. You can see clearly here in their posting like there is only one way to play. Get good scrub kinda groupthink.