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[GreyNovember]

And only on purchase.

For the record, this is -strictly- for hero mechs. Generic C Bill bonus mechs do not count.

Rationale being, you're already ordering a custom chassis that is a copy of a famous one, or a variant that was made up. You may as well get a say in how you want it to be equipped.

With the limitations:

• You can only use parts that are present in the chassis. ( An Atlas can't take Crab arms, for example.)
  
• Your engine cap is determined by the lowest possible one from the variants you are using.
  
• Engine is locked on purchase, like an omni.
  
• You determine whether you want Endo/DHS/Ferro/Artemis/JJs on purchase. They are then locked like an Omni
  
• If you take JJs, those are hardlocked to your chassis.
  
• Hardpoints with multiple slots ( Such as the Jenner's energy arms, for example ) will incur a penalty, based on the difference between the number of hardpoints on your equipped arm, versus the lowest possible hardpoints on that arm. If that arm is 2E at it's lowest, and you stick 3E in there, you recieve longer cooldown/duration/heat for that choice.
  
• Heroes come quirkless, and can only get negative quirks. You are already minmaxing a machine. You do not need quirks at this point.
  
  
  
  
  
  All modifications made to the chassis are permanent on purchase. Reconfiguring a chassis means buying a new one altogether, and a mechbay for it.

Two reasons for suggesting this.

• People mention that there's no point in buying MC except for colors and patterns, which is already covered by preorders; among other things.
  
• There are heroes that are already suboptimal, with examples of CBill variants that are objectively superior/easier to use were it not for quirks.

This would require:

An Omni system is already in place. Theoretically, one could convert the IS Battlemech system to an entirely "Locked Omnipod" system, except they can change around engines and internals.


I realize of course, nobody wants to go in, go over the entire IS Roster, and convert them to this system. Not unless they're getting paid enough.

Do tell if there's something I overlooked that would make this a bad idea. I'm sure there is.

[Troutmonkey]

The benefit of this is what exactly? I think I liked the older idea of just shelling out MC to turn any regular mech into a "Hero" mech for the Cbills bonus

[GreyNovember]

Troutmonkey, on 02 November 2015 - 05:44 AM, said:

The benefit of this is what exactly? I think I liked the older idea of just shelling out MC to turn any regular mech into a "Hero" mech for the Cbills bonus

GreyNovember, on 02 November 2015 - 05:13 AM, said:

Two reasons for suggesting this.

• People mention that there's no point in buying MC except for colors and patterns, which is already covered by preorders; among other things.
  
• There are heroes that are already suboptimal, with examples of CBill variants that are objectively superior/easier to use were it not for quirks.

Is this sufficient?

[RussianWolf]

And what about everyone who already has these mechs in their garage? (I own all but the two latest heroes for instance)

And why bother given you can just buy Clan Omnis for cbills, or buy a cbill boosted clan omni for real money.

Edited by RussianWolf, 02 November 2015 - 07:11 AM.

[sycocys]

Why can't I just turn the mechs I actually like into hero mechs? The reason I prefer IS mechs is because they aren't Omnimechs and have character.

Sure seems like it would be a heck of a lot easier to implement than having to create a system to create mix/matched/re-combined mechs that are in all likelihood going to break the balance further despite any mild amount of negative quirking that would be done.

Edited by sycocys, 02 November 2015 - 07:14 AM.

[GreyNovember]

RussianWolf, on 02 November 2015 - 07:04 AM, said:

And what about everyone who already has these mechs in their garage? (I own all but the two latest heroes for instance)

And why bother given you can just buy Clan Omnis for cbills, or buy a cbill boosted clan omni for real money.

Then you keep your current heroes, quirks and all.

If you want to partake in this however, you need to buy a new chassis.

[Bobzilla]

PGI implements a change to curb meta or add balance, support is overrun with demand for refunds.

[GreyNovember]

sycocys, on 02 November 2015 - 07:12 AM, said:

Why can't I just turn the mechs I actually like into hero mechs? The reason I prefer IS mechs is because they aren't Omnimechs and have character.

Sure seems like it would be a heck of a lot easier to implement than having to create a system to create mix/matched/re-combined mechs that are in all likelihood going to break the balance further despite any mild amount of negative quirking that would be done.

No real reason really.

Sure. It would.

But then the hero mech becomes worthless when everyone gravitates to the CBill mech.

This at least keeps a chassis valid; if only through paygate.

[sycocys]

The premise of being able to turn out mechs into heroes is that it required us to pay an MC sum for it to happen. It's adding a monetization system for mechs that aren't costing players anything.