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Loving The Voting System (While Being Sad). One Suggestion To Make It Better.


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#21 p4r4g0n

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 08:11 AM

View PostTordin, on 09 November 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

The only good thing about it is. Faster search times. With a ping of 40 at average I have gotten into matches just around 10-20 seconds later. Never happened before, not even in LIGHT que. Now I dont know if removing the voting system AND have the same great search times is possible.


If you remove voting and just generate random maps and modes, it will be even faster since you don't have to spend any time at all voting. Just saying.

#22 Rejarial Galatan

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 07:19 PM

In other words like it was before Russ bollocksed it up

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:03 PM

View PostRejarial Galatan, on 10 November 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

In other words like it was before Russ bollocksed it up


Actually, no. I meant random maps and no game mode selection.

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:41 PM

they way it is now, hot or even warm maps are going to get removed, assault and conquest too. I am sorry, but, i want variety, not this garbage we are seeing now. voting, both MAP and MODE have GOT TO GO. This will end up killing MWO and it will be RUSS BULLOCKS fault for being too bloody stupid to see how angry we are and being too damned DELUSIONAL to see whats happening. I wish I was wrong, but I am not.

#25 Tuis Ryche

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:47 PM

Lack of player control over what mode they play in is a part of this whole voting fiasco. There are people who don't want to play one or two of the modes regardless of how they are presented. People should be able to opt out of the modes they don't want to play.

I wonder how this would've been accepted if CW was somehow injected into this voting thing?

#26 Tuis Ryche

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Posted 10 November 2015 - 11:52 PM

Let me select only Skirmish, and I would only care when the map selector picked Caustic or Bog. I could deal with that. But to have my disappointments fall in 2/3 of map/mode combinations is tiring. I already yanked what money I had left in this game and won't be spending anymore while this **** and mech balance is, well, in the balance.

#27 Mawai

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 09:45 AM

View PostRejarial Galatan, on 08 November 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:

Gloowa and Pyroth let me let you in on a little known to you apparently business saying, that has, in fact, proven far more accurate than most people like: For every ONE person who vocally complains about a service or product, there are ten THOUSAND more who are equally angered or irritated but do not speak up."

Those who, like you, call us the minority are the mouth breathing dipsticks who refuse to learn how to do more than treat this game like an over grown Call of Duty. I am sorry you are to naive to understand this, or perhaps its blatant refusal, as the current system finally is bowing to your lowest common denominator branch of shoot anything and everything, to hell with the objectives and to hell with those who WANT said objective bottom feeding mewling quim tossers. SO crawl back into your cesspits will ya.


1) Not sure where you are getting your quote ... since 10,000 is FAR from accurate ... try 26 :)

https://www.linkedin...rld-but-haven-t

4. For every customer complaint there are 26 other unhappy customers who have remained silent –Lee Resource.

Also the original source ...
http://returnonbehav...ience-for-2011/


2) There are a lot of folks who don't mind the voting system. I generally like it ... however, I think it needs some adjustments.


3) Neither side of this discussion has ANY idea which side is the minority and which the majority. At the moment they seem about equal but those who dislike it are being far more vocal since those who think it is ok likely also thought the previous system fine too ... so no big motivation to do say anything about it one way or another.



Finally, I think PGI needs to read those customer service lists since I don't think they are paying enough attention ... player retention is central to the long term health of free 2 play games and they need to look at the effects of the changes they make.

That said, I can see their argument than hard game mode selection has to go if they want to introduce additional game modes, Every game mode added makes mode choice that much more of a constraint and splits the player base even further driving up wait times. One or two new game modes would break hard coded mode selection and make for a more complicated matchmaker. As it is the mode voting has reduced wait times for some at the expense of getting the game modes they want.

The main problem with the mode voting is that conquest is a very rare result for those interested in playing it. Many do not like the split objective nature of conquest where their team can be ahead 10:2 and lose due to resources. As a result, skirmish or assault are usually chosen as alternatives.

One possible fix is to use the votes as a weighting ... where each game mode starts with a weight of 1 and the final mode is decided randomly. This way all game modes would show up occasionally and a 40% to 60% vote would not always go to the 60% faction.

A further refinement would be that a map or mode would require at least one vote to be eligible for random selection. So if everyone voted for skirmish then there would be no chance for the alternative.

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Posted 11 November 2015 - 04:43 PM

The way it was before voting worked. Mostly happy ppl, now it's skirmish mob rule, with us assault and conquest mode pilots being angry.





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