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[Excessive Paranoia]

I'm going to have a couple of friends dropping with me tomorrow for the first time and I'm not sure how to best introduce them to the game. I had thought we'd just group up as a lance and drop together, but I've read a couple of posts in the last few days that has me concerned that would be introducing them straight into hard-mode play. Is the group queue really as brutal as some people seem to think it is, or is that just hyperbole? Also, someone mentioned league games being a much better environment, but I didn't even know we had a league? Any suggestions?

Thanks

[9thDeathscream]

Group queue is brutal.

Either let them have a go solo first.

Or

Private matches where they can train against you. But you need 2 peeps with premium time running.

[Triordinant]

Since MWO doesn't have a training queue you'll have to make your own in a private match.

[Excessive Paranoia]

Well, out of 4 people who are going to be playing together, we will have 0 with premium time, so I guess that option is out...

EDIT: And I definitely can't ask any of them to put money up for MC if they don't know they will like the game

Edited by Excessive Paranoia, 07 November 2015 - 05:17 AM.

[Triordinant]

You don't need MC or Premium Time to have private matches. No Premium Time simply means you can't preselect the map or team size.

[Elizander]

Well you can hop on the PTS if you can download it. I think you have a lot of resources there and can activate Premium.

[Excessive Paranoia]

Triordinant, on 07 November 2015 - 05:33 AM, said:

You don't need MC or Premium Time to have private matches. No Premium Time simply means you can't preselect the map or team size.

Will the rest of the teams then be filled with solo que players? Or would it just be the 4 of us?

[Elizander]

Triordinant, on 07 November 2015 - 05:33 AM, said:

You don't need MC or Premium Time to have private matches. No Premium Time simply means you can't preselect the map or team size.

There are only 4 of them.

[Triordinant]

Excessive Paranoia, on 07 November 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

Will the rest of the teams then be filled with solo que players? Or would it just be the 4 of us?

If I remember correctly, you'll have to Invite others to join in.

[Excessive Paranoia]

Triordinant, on 07 November 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

If I remember correctly, you'll have to Invite others to join in.

Back to square one then... I don't think I've got 20 people on my friends list, let alone 20 active at the same time...

[-Teiwaz-]

Do you have any premium time available to you? One option could be to gift one of your friends with one day of premium time and use some of your own time. Buy one day of PT for yourself and gift one to a friend, convoluted and will cost real money I know but it would work. Then you have complete control of the private match and your friends and get the basics in a relaxed manner.

[LORD ORION]

PvE

I recall the Immortals beta MOBA

Non moba players were thrilled to be able to try out Moba like gameplay in PvE and not PvP or PvAI

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Private matches man...

On the other hand... I typically throw my friends head first into group queue and its the grind rather than the difficulty that tends to drive them off. You just have to make sure they know they're gonna get wrecked a lot until they've played a few hundred matches.


Oh.... best idea. Stock mech monday. Grind enough cbills on their account for a decent stock mech and let them have at it there. Games are friendly and everyone is using 3025 tech so TTK is lower and builds aren't optimal.

Also, if you want I have premium time so I can help out with the 2 premium user requirement if you give me a couple days notice. Just don't ask me to teach them the meta since I mostly run AC20 ravens and other unholy abominations.

Edited by Narcissistic Martyr, 07 November 2015 - 08:43 AM.

[Excessive Paranoia]

TigersRoar, on 07 November 2015 - 07:31 AM, said:

Do you have any premium time available to you? One option could be to gift one of your friends with one day of premium time and use some of your own time. Buy one day of PT for yourself and gift one to a friend, convoluted and will cost real money I know but it would work. Then you have complete control of the private match and your friends and get the basics in a relaxed manner.

I guess it didn't even occur to me that I could gift them some premium time so we could play like that. How does one go about doing this?

Narcissistic Martyr, on 07 November 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:

Private matches man...

On the other hand... I typically throw my friends head first into group queue and its the grind rather than the difficulty that tends to drive them off. You just have to make sure they know they're gonna get wrecked a lot until they've played a few hundred matches.


Oh.... best idea. Stock mech monday. Grind enough cbills on their account for a decent stock mech and let them have at it there. Games are friendly and everyone is using 3025 tech so TTK is lower and builds aren't optimal.

Also, if you want I have premium time so I can help out with the 2 premium user requirement if you give me a couple days notice. Just don't ask me to teach them the meta since I mostly run AC20 ravens and other unholy abominations.

If they like the gameplay, I'm not too worried about them being discouraged by the grind. We were all heavy pvpers in a Korean MMO which is about as grindy as you can get.

That said, "Stock mech monday"? League matches? Where are you guys getting these concepts? In all the time I've been playing MWO (off and on since closed beta), I've never seen anything like that...

[Idealsuspect]

Excessive Paranoia, on 07 November 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:

I'm going to have a couple of friends dropping with me tomorrow for the first time and I'm not sure how to best introduce them to the game. I had thought we'd just group up as a lance and drop together, but I've read a couple of posts in the last few days that has me concerned that would be introducing them straight into hard-mode play. Is the group queue really as brutal as some people seem to think it is, or is that just hyperbole? Also, someone mentioned league games being a much better environment, but I didn't even know we had a league? Any suggestions?

Thanks

Best way is to play solo
And best way for push them to uninstall is to play group mode with them ...

Edit: maybe begin by play CW with them ...

Edited by Idealsuspect, 07 November 2015 - 02:14 PM.

[Navid A1]

Excessive Paranoia, on 07 November 2015 - 02:08 PM, said:

I guess it didn't even occur to me that I could gift them some premium time so we could play like that. How does one go about doing this?

...

here is the link to the gift shop
https://mwomercs.com/gifts
the minimum you can gift is 7 days i guess and that is 6 USD.


I think the best way to go is setting up private matches... i've been part of a training session before. it is very effective. Acting as the enemy or teammate, there are lots and lots of info you can show them without them feeling they are at the bottom of the food chain...

Edited by Navid A1, 07 November 2015 - 02:30 PM.

[Deathlike]

Elizander, on 07 November 2015 - 05:34 AM, said:

Well you can hop on the PTS if you can download it. I think you have a lot of resources there and can activate Premium.

It won't work with new accounts. Only existing accounts will work (I think the most recent snapshot was like last week or so).


My best suggestion is find a friend or unit member that has active premium time to run it WITH you, so that you can avoid having to buy premium time for one new person (you and that person will have to be on opposite sides of the private match, which is probably most appropriate anyways).

If you want to gift premium time, you'd probably want to do it through the gift store OR give them a Karma Koin card to allow that player to buy MC and then premium time.

Edited by Deathlike, 07 November 2015 - 02:20 PM.

[His Holiness Pope Buster]

Excessive Paranoia, on 07 November 2015 - 04:49 AM, said:

I'm going to have a couple of friends dropping with me tomorrow for the first time and I'm not sure how to best introduce them to the game. I had thought we'd just group up as a lance and drop together, but I've read a couple of posts in the last few days that has me concerned that would be introducing them straight into hard-mode play. Is the group queue really as brutal as some people seem to think it is, or is that just hyperbole? Also, someone mentioned league games being a much better environment, but I didn't even know we had a league? Any suggestions?

Thanks

Get a small amount of premium time and set up some private matches.

[Spleenslitta]

I advice you to let them drop alone but tell them to tell you stories about what their fights are like.
The reason for this is that i've been guiding 2 guys on how to flank using mechs with 100 kph or faster speed without getting chased down by light mechs...too often.

I found that those stories they told me often allowed me to point out their mistakes or they just pointed them out themselves.
The fact that they told me their warstories made them remember their mistakes better so they learned much faster.

[Navid A1]

If you want to have a go in the private match... make sure you bring a couple of more guys with you ... like ... a 4v4 or 4v3 or 3v3...

this way you can cover more material. (e.g. having mechs with BAPs, ECMs, TAG, LRMs, NARCs, PPCs at the same time can really help you show them what each one does)

try setting them up in the spectator slot once too. and show them different strategies in flanking, 1v1 , 2v2 battles, etc...

Edited by Navid A1, 07 November 2015 - 02:36 PM.